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To: Logophile; kerryusama04; Cvengr
The Ten Tribes were carried away captive by the Assyrians earlier (722 BC). The present location of the Ten tribes is unknown to us

Some folks would disagree with your statement here....about not knowing where they are today, but I can tell you from scripture that these ten tribes were known as "Israel", the northern kingdom. The Biblical history of Israel ends in [2Kings 17] except for the prophets. The people occupying the middle east nation called "Israel" today are descendants of the southern kingdom of Judah, [2 Kings 17:18] and became known as Jews.

All throughout the rest of the Old Testament....and the New, you will see prophecy directed to or against both "Israel and Judah". To understand this prophecy make sure you only apply prophecy about "Judah" to the present day, misnamed country of Israel. The rest of the prophecy regarding "Israel" is directed to or against some other group of folks.....to be named later.

There is a very broad distinction in the Bible between these two nations. In fact the very first place you will find the word Jew mentioned in scripture is 2 Kings 16:5-6 and Israel is at war against the Jews. This is one reason why so many folks cannot understand simple prophecy. They are trying to place the wrong events on the wrong people at the wrong time.

34 posted on 12/29/2005 2:57:05 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
Yo Diego,

Are you saying that literal Isreal has a place in the end time prophecy? Please elaborate...

36 posted on 12/29/2005 4:00:41 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: Diego1618
Israel was still commanded to keep the covenant laws of God. How is it that Judah was conquered and dispersed but still follows the commands given in the Old Testament, while there are no people of Israel that follow similar laws? My guess is that Israelis didn’t ghettoize themselves as the people of Judah did, and became racially mixed with the Assyrians, then the Persians and Greeks.
44 posted on 12/29/2005 5:19:13 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Diego1618; the-ironically-named-proverbs2; Lijahsbubbe; sauropod
There is a very broad distinction in the Bible between these two nations. In fact the very first place you will find the word Jew mentioned in scripture is 2 Kings 16:5-6 and Israel is at war against the Jews. This is one reason why so many folks cannot understand simple prophecy. They are trying to place the wrong events on the wrong people at the wrong time.

It's the dirty little secret the modern prophecy expert$ are conveniently ignorant of and/or hide intentionally from their flock$. The buying and selling of interpretation is big business.

Joseph is yet alive.

45 posted on 12/29/2005 5:38:33 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: Diego1618
"To understand this prophecy make sure you only apply prophecy about "Judah" to the present day, misnamed country of Israel. The rest of the prophecy regarding "Israel" is directed to or against some other group of folks.....to be named later."

Isa 9:6-8
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
8 The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.

Who rejected the Messiah, and instead who ended up accepting Him (for now)? Maybe verse 8 makes more sense in that context? Or how about:

Isa 48:1
48:1 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the LORD, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness.

70 posted on 12/31/2005 9:44:47 AM PST by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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