[Popman]

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[Shalom Israel]

I think the guy has a point, but this statement is proving hard to digets:

“Evangelicals maintain headship in the sphere of ideas, but practical decisions are made in most evangelical homes through a process of negotiation, mutual submission, and consensus,” Moore said. “That’s what our forefathers would have called feminism – and our foremothers, too.”

I attempt to operate as the biblical head, but the above sounds like a fair description of my household, and it also sounds like Ephesians 5. Headship implies an ultimate authority, but it would seem to be an abuse of that authority not to take the other person's wishes into account and, unless there's a good reason not to, accommodating them.

[bella1]

The feminization of Christianity. It doesn't work.

[maestro]

?Egalitarian views are carrying the day within evangelical-&-catholic churches and homes, Moore said, because complementarians have not dealt sufficiently with the forces that drive the feminist impulse: Western notions of consumerism-666 and therapy-666?

1st Timothy 2:11-15

1st Timothy 2:5

Hebrews 1:1-3

/Narnia pagan nonsense

[Tax-chick]

research has shown many conservative and evangelical households to be among the “softest” when it comes to familial harmony, relational happiness and emotional health, Moore said

Does this mean anything in English, or did it come from a Random Gibberish Generator?

[manwiththehands]

“Evangelicals maintain headship in the sphere of ideas, but practical decisions are made in most evangelical homes through a process of negotiation, mutual submission, and consensus,” Moore said. “That’s what our forefathers would have called feminism – and our foremothers, too.”

A lot of our forefathers supported slavery, too ... and used the bible to justify it.

The concept of "submission" has historically been abused and taken to an extreme. But it's only simple biblical law and order that starts in the home. When a decision has to be made and cannot be agreed to, someone has to be in charge. And it's the husband's responsibility, not right.

This "submission" the bible speaks is the the wife's responsibility to agree to a husband's decision only after negotiation, mutual submission and consensus should fail.

[Campion]

Instead, Moore said, a biblical view of male headship and gender roles actually protect against spousal and child abuse because it does not posit male privilege, but instead demands male responsibility.

Something that needs to be kept front-and-center, IMO. The same passage which calls on wives to submit to their husbands also calls on husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the Church. My wife is called upon to submit to my headship. I'm called upon to be crucified for her.

"Could we please re-negotiate this package, honey? I'm not sure this trade is as fair as I thought it'd be ..."