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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Cronos; annalex; jo kus
This is what FK said: "but a person does need to ... know God well enough to accept Him." If you carefully read what he said, you will understand that, while the knowledge may come from God, the decision is made by us.

I agree with FK and he is perfectly consistent in what he is saying. Calvinists do NOT believe that man has no will. Calvinists believe man's will is bound to sin. The Son sets us free from that bondage. Once God has set us free His work is perfect and complete and WE WILL make the decision to follow Christ. But one we are set free we will ALWAYS make the decision to follow Christ.

God enlightens the mind and we choose to follow Christ. Where we disagree from Orthodox, Catholics and many Protestants is over this issue. Everyone else feels that somehow God enlightens and we sit around thinking, "Hmmmm, heaven, hell, heaven, hell????" The fact of the matter is that once God shows us the road to heaven, we have found the pearl of great price and truly desire it.

This was the whole concept of being a "bond servant" which the apostles compared themselves to. We WANT God to put a ring in our ear to be His servant forever more. It doesn't mean servants don't do stupid things. It means that we are now the property of a King.

2,503 posted on 02/11/2006 3:18:35 AM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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To: HarleyD; kosta50; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Cronos; annalex
Calvinists believe man's will is bound to sin. The Son sets us free from that bondage. Once God has set us free His work is perfect and complete and WE WILL make the decision to follow Christ. But one we are set free we will ALWAYS make the decision to follow Christ.

That is not true, as John tells us Christians that we continue to sin - despite being released from bondage. Paul in Romans 7 continues to fight against the flesh. We WILL make the decision to follow Christ? Then no one can ever fall away - a thought that is proven wrong by experience...

Regards

2,513 posted on 02/11/2006 12:05:41 PM PST by jo kus
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