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To: Forest Keeper
Did God leave us anything that is perfect, or is all of our knowledge of God littered with errors?

Everything He made, including us, was made good, if I remember my Scripture. The error had to come from somewhere -- I would say it was us by abusing our freedom, which you deny so in your case it is something God "ordained."

In the fallen humanity, everything we know, including our faith, is flawed. And that includes our understanding of the Scripture -- or else we would not be having this discussion. Unless, of course, you believe that you are without a flaw and we are full of them.

I have no problem with science, I appreciate God's gifts. I have a problem when men trust science before they trust God

The two are not "miscible." You trust science because science produces results on demand. If you don't believe in gravity, jump off a tall building and you will believe. Trusting God comes from the heart; it requires faith, indeed hope, without a proof of experiment or reason, but only of experience. Trusting the unknown and the invisible is a different kind of faith altogether.

4,358 posted on 04/04/2006 4:01:20 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Everything He made, including us, was made good, if I remember my Scripture. The error had to come from somewhere -- I would say it was us by abusing our freedom, which you deny so in your case it is something God "ordained."

When God made Adam and Eve it was good, but is there scripture to say that when He made the rest of us we were good? Obviously this goes to our honest differences as to the nature of man at birth. -- I would say that the error came from man's choosing to sin AND that God ordained our nature to be so.

Unless, of course, you believe that you are without a flaw and we are full of them.

I have a flaw. :)

The two [science and faith] are not "miscible."

I don't agree that the two must be mutually exclusive, in context. Why should Christianity be "afraid" of science? If God created what we call science for us as a gift, then how could it interfere with scripture? God created both.

4,463 posted on 04/07/2006 10:40:29 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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