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To: annalex; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; AlbionGirl; qua

Jesus asked that his mother be taken care of. If Mary were here today, I'd offer her a chair and some coffee.

But she's not my mother. Nor yours. The attention you show Mary would be put to better use by glorifying Jesus Christ, the only mediator who matters.


4,403 posted on 04/05/2006 12:53:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

This is your heretical spin on a very clear scripture.

Do you really imagine that Christ's next-to-last words before His death were an economic arrangement for His mother's coffee?


4,404 posted on 04/05/2006 12:56:49 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Here’s another situation, Dr. E, where I seem to be caught somewhere in the middle.

My affection for Our Lord’s Blessed Mother is pronounced, as it is for John the Baptist and Paul.

If I were able to sit down with Mary today, I would be in a certain manner, awed, as I would be if I had the chance to sit down with St. Paul or blessed John the Baptist. While all these people should be viewed strictly as human beings, they were Divinely selected, and that seems significant to me. They were part of God‘s plan of Salvation in a way that I was not. That isn‘t to say I think them intrinsically more worthy than other human beings, but that they have something to say that I need to listen to.

If I had a chance to offer Our Lord’s Mother a cup of coffee, which is an image I like, by the way, I’d be beside myself with questions concerning Her Son’s human side. I’d ask her if He was prone to be disinclined to certain personality types, did He tend to shy away from those who were verbose? Was He easily annoyed? What were His favorite foods? Did he like to sleep or was He prone to staying awake into the wee hours? Was His tendency to be melancholy or enthusiastic? What were His eyes like? In short, what were His human qualities that were so identifiable with hers?

One of my favorite scenes in The Passion of The Christ is the scene where He finished crafting the table that was a little higher than normally used at the time, and the dialogue between Him and her consists of Him trying to convince her that it’s the wave of the future, and her shaking her head in a loving manner, indicating that she thinks ‘it’ll never catch on.’

I don’t really think she’s a means of tipping the scales in a person’s favor, in terms of influencing God’s disposition towards that person. That seems to me to be an extra-Scriptural accretion.

As I mentioned before, kneeling before her statue always seemed unnatural to me, so I don’t know her the way most Catholics do. I rarely prayed the Rosary. When I did, I tired to pray it slowly, and to concentrate on the Mysteries associated with the decades. Probably one of the reasons I didn’t take praying the Rosary more seriously, is that every time I heard it prayed, people were rushing through it or monotonously mouthing the prayers. I couldn’t pray like that, and attain the succor, guidance and strength that I was searching for.

4,412 posted on 04/05/2006 6:56:05 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (God made the Gate so narrow. No man has the right to make it more narrow still.)
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