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To: Pyro7480
But instead of simply obeying, the Neocatechumenals disobeyed while asserting that they were perfectly obedient.
They have all the trappings of a cult.
This is really how the SSPX started out, disobeying while claiming obedience, and they still do it today. Seperate heirarchy, seperate catechism, seperate Mass, on and on and on. Different theologies, but otherwise very similar. I truly hope the result is different. We shall see.

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34 posted on 01/19/2006 3:59:42 PM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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"Seperate heirarchy, seperate catechism, seperate Mass, ..."

True of the Neos, not true of the SSPX. The catechism? The same the Church used for centuries. The Mass? The same the Church used for centuries. The hierarchy? The same Rome gave them until 1988 and even then only in a state of necessity, not a total change of theology, liturgy, catechism and belief.


38 posted on 01/19/2006 10:06:43 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: patent
Not me. Pope Benedict said our Church would be much smaller in the future. Time for him to start swinging the scythe and start lopping off the heads of all of these schismatic heretics.

Honestly, as a faithful Catholic who has seen AmChurch run my Faith into the ground, I can tell you that much of the time I am frustrated and angry at the refusal of the Papacy to apply discipline that could (would?) put us back on the path to ecclesiastical sanity.

IMO, the Papal hesitancy in applying discipline has not yielded a lot of positive results.

If I were Pope, I'd publicly state, "Y'all have until Good Friday to get right with the Lord and the Church. That goes for anyone who goes to the illicit Masses of the SSPX to those who go to Neocatechumenal Liturgues and anyone else who opposes me. If y'all aren't in union with me, if you do not obey legitimate and Divinely Ordained authority, y'all can go to hell. Capiche? Y'all got to Good Friday. Period. Come the Monday after Easter, Y'all are excomunicated. That's it. We Popes haven't been doing our jobs. We have been too lenient. Good Friday, that ends. Good Friday is the day we bury leniency and tolerance. This Easter, the Church will rise purified and on fire. Y'all either with me or against me. Choose life or death."

40 posted on 01/20/2006 4:47:03 AM PST by bornacatholic
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