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To: ksen
Just because her prayers were for intercession does not negate the fact that she was praying to JPII, which you seem to agree with in the highlighted text above. Therefore I'm not sure why you chastised that other poster for: 1) quoting the story, and 2) for posting something you ultimately agree with, that the nun prayed to JPII.

No, I don't agree with it. There is a critical distinction which can easily be missed. The original poster implied that JPII was the end point of her prayers and I've been trying to point out that this is not the case. I hope I didn't appear to be chastising anyone. Trying to enlighten, would be more accurate.

The poster to whom I addressed my original post implied that she was praying to a man, instead of to God. There's an important theological point here which CNN's unfortunate choice of words confuses, although it clarified the situation later in the article. My response was to point out that we can ask others to intercede before God on our behalf. This not the same thing as praying the psalms or the "Our Father". This does not detract from God nor give false worship to a man as the original poster implied. That's because the end point of all prayer is God.

Other members of the Church (alive or dead) may be asked to intercede for us before God. This is not praying to them, even if CNN says it is. No disprespect to CNN but it's not the Catholic journal of record. As Catholics, we believe that we are all part of the same Church, irrespective of whether we have died in faith and gone to heaven or are still on earth and on the journey. The Church in heaven we call the Church Triumphant. The Church on earth is the Church Militant. Different branches but the same Church. This explains why it is possible to ask (or "pray to" in CNN's lingo) JPII to intercede before God for us.

Another common inaccuracy you may also see associated with this type of article from time to time is that "St. X healed me". Same mistake.

No, St. X didn't heal you. God healed you through the intercession of the saint.

48 posted on 01/30/2006 10:44:35 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
No, St. X didn't heal you. God healed you through the intercession of the saint.

Not quite true.

Healing of Nohad El Shami

102 posted on 01/30/2006 1:47:50 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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