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Divorce and Remarriage
http://www.truthmagazine.com/arch0.html ^ | Warren R. King

Posted on 02/20/2006 9:03:15 AM PST by bremenboy

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To: TradicalRC
Experience shows that these threads end up being pro-marriage from those who have stayed committed and pro-divorce from those who didn't.

Second marriage for both of us and past 20 year mark. The Nuns who attended the wedding and encouraged it along with a priest were happy and blessed the event :>} BTW we're Baptist LOL. Believe me I know real well what committment means. I also understand there are very good reasons some should divorce.

121 posted on 02/20/2006 12:53:48 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: HitmanLV
If anyone really wants to make religious rules into a society's laws, I suggest they jump up and down a lot and yell 'Allah Akbar!!'

Where do you think society's laws came from? No wait you're right. It's okay to kill and steal now, those were pesky, backward Jewish nomadic laws that are out-of-date in the modern world.

122 posted on 02/20/2006 12:56:59 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: Conservative til I die
The minute you decide that your sin is OK because it's not as bad as someone else's is the day you've been lost to Satan. Because that's exactly what he wants you to believe.

Fine, but where does it say that all sin is equal? Why did Jesus fashion a whip of cords for some and not others?

123 posted on 02/20/2006 12:58:49 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: TradicalRC

The law in the USA is not based soley, or even mostly, on religious laws.


124 posted on 02/20/2006 12:59:06 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Chunga
Did Jesus tell Pilate that the one who delivered Christ to him had the greater sin?

Good one.

125 posted on 02/20/2006 1:00:12 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: Conservative til I die
The minute you decide that your sin is OK because it's not as bad as someone else's is the day you've been lost to Satan. Because that's exactly what he wants you to believe.

A person submitting themselves to a corrupt religious theocracy could be, in theory, considered sinful, but then I am not going to go into that.

I try to stick to the Ten Commandments, which is more than what most people who claim to be moral do.

126 posted on 02/20/2006 1:03:09 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: HitmanLV
Maybe. But I'm not so sure. I recall one post on FR that made an ideal marriage sound like a prison sentence. Any way you cut that, it's bad marketing.

What's so hard about it? If you believe divorce is cool, don't bother getting married.

127 posted on 02/20/2006 1:04:38 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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128 posted on 02/20/2006 1:04:50 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: TradicalRC

What's so hard about what?


129 posted on 02/20/2006 1:09:22 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: right right
I'm not preaching anything, only telling you what I think the Bible says about how God perceives sin.

That's called preaching.

There is/are/were/always will be good and evil.

It corrupts your soul to believe all negative actions are equally evil. The first step to being a fanatic is believing that acts that disagree with your beliefs are equally evil.

In doing so you lose perspective and become arrogant, which corrupts your soul.

We are not to judge anyone. God does that, by His rules,

You are the one here doing the judging, not God, you need to admit this before your arrogance corrupts you to far.

130 posted on 02/20/2006 1:09:51 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: cva66snipe
The Nuns who attended the wedding and encouraged it along with a priest were happy and blessed the event :>} BTW we're Baptist LOL.

We are all aware that there are many questionable nuns and priests in the Catholic Church.

131 posted on 02/20/2006 1:09:54 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: jo kus
I am not aware of the Catholic Church granting a "divorce" due to adultery.

As you stated, they don't. From what I've read of the early church fathers, they allowed a divorce based on a spouse's sexual misconduct, however they did not allow a remarriage.

And I knew that beforehand, but I figured it would be better if a Catholic explained it. Just trying to be fair. Of course you know what Chesterton said about those who try to be "fair" to the Catholic Church....

132 posted on 02/20/2006 1:09:55 PM PST by Rytwyng ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche......"Oh, yeah? Wait 3 days!!!" -- God)
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To: jo kus
they allowed a divorce based on a spouse's sexual misconduct, however they did not allow a remarriage.

Sorry, "divorce" should have been in quotes. Or maybe separation would be a better word. In any case they did not allow remarriage, as far as I can find.

133 posted on 02/20/2006 1:12:08 PM PST by Rytwyng ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche......"Oh, yeah? Wait 3 days!!!" -- God)
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To: mlc9852
But divorce often affects the rest of the family also, not just the husband and wife. Marriage has basically become a meaningless institution. Easy to get in and easier to get out of. Children really do suffer the most.

Children do suffer the most but which is worse...children living in a highly dysfunctional, extremely unhappy environment that will eventually distort their view of what a good or functional relationship is, OR children dealing with a divorce but living in a healthy, happy environment which allows for positive emotional growth by the children?

134 posted on 02/20/2006 1:19:50 PM PST by Emmalein (Try not to let your mind wander...It is too small and fragile to be out by itself.)
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To: Emmalein

That is why it is the responsibility of the parents to provide a healthy family for the children.


135 posted on 02/20/2006 1:26:20 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: TradicalRC
We are all aware that there are many questionable nuns and priests in the Catholic Church.

This was a conservative order actually. She was divorced due to three reasons done against her by her husband adultery {involving a minor girlfriend}, physical abuse that contributed to quadriplegia, and abandonment of her and kids with no support. She was free to remarry. I was free due to being a widower. The nuns in the hospital where she was had protected her and kept big bad ex who wanted to in his words see the B*** die from entering the building.

Marriage? Commitment? I know well what it means including the words in sickness and in health so does she. Her marriage ended two years before I ever met her.

GOD brought the two of us together through a complicated string of events that started when my first wife died and involved me taking a transfer to another facility where I worked at the time. From that point things happened fast and in a precise timely manner. All decessions by both of us involved much prayer and some counceling by clergy as well both Catholic and Baptist. Some things must be done in faith.

136 posted on 02/20/2006 1:26:41 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: TradicalRC

your not judging their sins or their life


137 posted on 02/20/2006 1:39:33 PM PST by right right
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To: Emmalein

Research tends to indicate that if there is not physical abuse, children still do better living in a home with both their parents than they do having gone through their parents' divorce and subsequent living arrangements.

So it's a balancing act. Do two spouses in a troubled relationship learn to live together better, or do they free themselves at their children's expense, knowing it could have bad effects on them?

It's a call the people involved have to make. But you usually can't say it's better for the children.


138 posted on 02/20/2006 1:45:26 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Telling you what i think is not preaching. I did not say all negative actions are equally evil. I said God perceives all sins as sin. Man does not. Man cannot grant eternal life.

you said >>>>>>>>>>>>You are the one here doing the judging, not God, you need to admit this before your arrogance corrupts you to far.


I judge no one here. I told you what I think. Disagree if you like.


139 posted on 02/20/2006 1:48:56 PM PST by right right
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Research tends to indicate that if there is not physical abuse, children still do better living in a home with both their parents than they do having gone through their parents' divorce and subsequent living arrangements.

Would you happen to have links to this research? There are other types of abuse that can have just as severe an impact on a child...emotional or psychological abuse come to mind. Growing up, my siblings and I never experienced physical abuse, but the emotional and psychological toll was traumatizing. We begged our parents to divorce...they had decided it would be best for the children (us) if they stayed together.

140 posted on 02/20/2006 1:59:19 PM PST by Emmalein (Try not to let your mind wander...It is too small and fragile to be out by itself.)
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