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To: RobbyS
"Taking the Bible as it is, it IS a story seen from a local point of View."
 

It's clearly a global view...

"The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth
, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was o­nly evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that he had made man o­n the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. So the LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them." But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD."



"Assuming that Moses is the author, this is the historty of the world as known to him"


Based o­n your assumption, how then would the author of the Torah know any details of events before the creation of man (Gen1)?
14 posted on 05/29/2006 10:52:11 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Assuming Moses was the author, and he is the traditionally the author, he was writing from a particular time and place. He would know what God chose to tell him, and he would understand in accordance with his experience.


15 posted on 05/29/2006 11:00:28 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; RobbyS; Alex Murphy; truthfinder9
"It's clearly a global view... 'The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was o­nly evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that he had made man o­n the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. So the LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land...'

Anything I highlighted above stick out atcha?

The Origins Solution by Dick Fischer

Chapter 15

THE FLOOD WATERS ABATE: INTO THE PERSIAN GULF

[huge snip]

Summary

Noah's Flood, recent in occurrence and confined to the Mesopotamian valley and its inhabitants, was retribution for sin, but as Paul states, "Sin is not imputed when there is no law" (Rom. 5:13b). Those civilizations outside the Adamic covenant and outside the immediate area were unaccountable and unaffected by the flood. If we take into consideration the allowable interpretations of "earth" instead of "land," "heaven" rather than "sky," and "mountains" as against "hills," coupled with the Hebrew words "all" and "every" when we would say "much" and "many," plus the Hebrew penchant for perfect or prophetic numbers, we should be able to understand how a Mesopotamian calamity has been misunderstood as a global cataclysm.

The biblical, archaeological, and anthropological evidence corroborates that God spared human populations who were outside the Mesopotamian valley and outside of His covenant. God "winked at" their ignorance (Acts 17:30), but targeted the Adamites in particular, obliterating those who were answerable and willfully disobedient. Evidently the Sumerians were hapless bystanders, many of whom perished, and some may have become proselytes who drowned in the flood.

In Luke, the Pharisees asked Jesus to rebuke His disciples, "And He answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out" (Luke 19:40). The "stones" in the form of inscribed clay tablets are crying out today, confirming God's Word. Are we listening, or are we like the Pharisees?

NOTES [snip]

Anyone interested in reading this whole chapter can let me know and I'll freepmail it to you.

(Also see #12 in this thread)

20 posted on 05/29/2006 11:45:28 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; RobbyS
When properly translated from the Hebrew, "earth" here refers to a region, not the entire world. Problem is that today most people have a superficial undestanding of biblical languages. But as the article I linked to explains, there are a lot of other obvious indicators to a local flood. Why The Literal View Requires a Local Flood
45 posted on 05/30/2006 12:30:45 PM PDT by truthfinder9
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