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Posted on 06/16/2006 11:50:40 AM PDT by NYer

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To: jrny
No. It is in English. It was a used one offered for sale at my RCIA class, and was published in 1976. I can't figure out where the day's readings are. Nor can I understand whether I am to repeat certain phrases, refer back to previous pages, etc.

I think I am going to ask our priest to offer a class in how to use a breviary. It doesn't do much good owning one and having good intentions to pray the Divine Office if you don't know how to do it!!

21 posted on 06/19/2006 8:51:55 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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In the SSPX, Prime & Sext are not chanted, they are recited recto tono. Compline is the only office they sing in full chant. On Sundays and major feasts, Lauds are usually recited instead of Prime, and Vespers are sung in full chant.

Yes, that is more correct. Sorry for the confusion.
22 posted on 06/19/2006 8:52:46 AM PDT by Slugworth
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Sounds like a great idea. I am not well versed in the post-V2 Divine Office. If you were trying to pray the 1962 Office, I would offer to help you.


23 posted on 06/19/2006 8:57:33 AM PDT by jrny
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To: Slugworth; ELS

While I am no longer an SSPX adherent, I have fond memories of participating at many public Divine Office services while spending a summer week at the Retreat House in Ridgefield, CT or while in High School in St. Mary's, KS.

That being said, I think (and wish) that the SSPX and FSSP (a little Trad ecumenism here) should sponsor an organization similar to those on Breviary.net which would be committed to the 1962 Office rather than the 1954 Office. What do you think?


24 posted on 06/19/2006 9:00:41 AM PDT by jrny
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I think it would be great to have an online resource like breviary.net for the 1961/2 Roman Breviary. Both the SSPX and FSSP currently publish the 1961/2 Roman Breviary (OK, one is a diurnale, but now we're just picking nits ...), so it probably wouldn't be as big of a project to place it online as starting from scratch. Maybe they could get seminarians to do the grunt work. ;-)

I came across a photo of some FSSP members chanting Terce in their parish in Rome (if you click on the picture, you will see a larger version):


25 posted on 06/19/2006 10:15:54 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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The work from scratch I alluded to would be the publication of complete musical text for the Roman Office. Or, IOW, the same Breviaries that the SSPX and FSSP use, with all the Gregorian notes in addition to the text. Such a book would likely be 3-4 times the thickness of the Liber, so it would probably have to be published in 4 volumes.

As for placing the Breviary on line just like Breviary.net does, I suppose a scanning project would suffice to accomplish this. The 1961 Breviary is MUCH easier to learn and pray than the 1954, so we wouldn't have as much cumbersome work to do in order to get this online.

It really surprised me that a die-hard old rubrical sedevacantist group took such initiative to get lay people praying the Office via Breviary.net. I always expected the FSSP and perhaps the SSPX to be in lead on this issue.


26 posted on 06/19/2006 10:23:20 AM PDT by jrny
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When I said "from scratch" I meant having to type all of the text anew. Given that they have published the Breviary, I assume they have the content in electronic form already. That would make going from a print version to an online version much easier. I wasn't referring to a print version with the Gregorian notation.

If the print version is in an electronic format, then going to an online version would not require scanning. Besides, Web pages load faster when they are primarily text as opposed to images (unless you were talking about scanners with OCR capability).

If an online version of the 1961/2 Roman Breviary is ever made, I agree with comments you have made on previous threads that it would be nice to have the prayers fully laid out so one wouldn't have to navigate all around the site (as is necessary on breviary.net).

27 posted on 06/19/2006 11:38:20 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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