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To: bornacatholic

LOL, you are making a claim of mental illness. Either you are qualified to do so and have His Excellency as a patient and therefore ought not comment, or you have no reason to claim mental illness other than as a detraction. To play word games as you do detracts even further from botth your arguments and the comity between Catholics that we all ought to seek. You hold yourself out as the voice of Rome and then go beyond anything Rome ever has by name-calling. Sad, very very sad.


88 posted on 06/27/2006 8:28:46 AM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses; murphE
Sorry, brother. I know my motivation. You don't. I have told everyone why I think fellay is insane. My idea at least leaves open the possibiity of him not being culpable.

You think him sane which means he IS culpable for his excommuncation, his heresies, his antisemitism, his attacks against the Pope, the Mass, and the Council. which means, according to Tradtion, he is well on the way to Perdition. I think that harsh but that is the consequence of your ideas about fellay.

I am not playing word games. Just because I know the definition of Calumny and you and MurphE don't is no reason for you to accuse me of word games. You should have taken the opportunity to apologise for accusing me of something I didn't do. That you did it out of ignorance would have been an acceptable excuse. But, of course, y'all can't do that, can you? So, after I was kind enough to educate you, you don't even have the decency to admit your error and apologise. No, for an apology, you substitute an accusation, presumptively afflatic based.

I don't hold myself out as the voice of Rome. But, why should the lack of evidence I do hold myself out as the voice of Rome even be a speed-bump on your road to making that accusation? The Pope is the voice. Not that y'all hear and obey him.

. IF they were/are sane,lefevbre and fellay (with all of the schism supporters being complicit, by consent, in their sins of calumny against the Pope) are in FAR WORSE peril than I imagine them to be :)

But sspx supporters never recognise their own mortal sins and egregious ignorance. They are too busy accusing others of destroying tradition, of judaising, of intentionally destroying the Faith, etc etc. In that they reveal themsslves as the true private-judgement liberals they are.

And can the "comity" claptrap. The schism has done nothing but attack, defame, deride, accuse, slander, hate etc etc etc.

fellay's little rant at the illicit ordination which was posted here by one of the sectaries in the cult of lefevbre was a typical example of how the cult educates the impressionable that the Divinely-Constituted authority is unworthy of trust.

Toothless, white-lightning-running, Arkansan snake-handlers have similar ideas about the Pope and the Living Magisterium.

Psychopathological Protestants in Fiddlebacks are not reliable guides. But, that is totally up to you. You have Free Will to follow whoever you want. As for me and my family, we will follow Divinely-Constitued authority.

92 posted on 06/27/2006 9:30:32 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: narses

It gets tireing of argueing with so called "conservatives" who say "Obidience, Obidience, Obidience" and little else, doesnt it? To me, you are argueing with the same mindset of so called "conservatives" who say that Limbaugh is the end all be all of conservatism, and are like a deer in the headlites when they try to go beyond talking points.

I am not one to support Bp. Williamson and his cult of personality in the English speaking world of the SSPX, to me Williamson is a vile, rotten man who has lost much of his sanity and should be locked up in a monestary for the rest of his natural life, I do not support the fact the SSPX keeps on moving the goalposts so to speak, and get caught up on minor details that prevent regularization with Rome. That said, if a local ordinary is malformed, I will not fall back on "obdience and authority", I will be forced to go beyond the diocean structure, go go to a mass and chapel that still adheres to the dogmas and doctrines of the faith, even if its not in a regular situation with the diocese.


99 posted on 06/27/2006 2:17:53 PM PDT by RFT1
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