[DannyTN]

"I can explain SN1987 and the heartburn it gives YECs very nicely."

I'd like to know your explanation. That's the quasar or object that appears visually to be linked to a galaxy and the object and the galaxy have dramatically different redshifts right?

It might not fit in an YEC model, but the disparity certainly does raise questions of whether we understand all the factors affecting redshift. The object raises the possibility that we have significant "unknown unknowns" with regard to redshift.

[RadioAstronomer]

I will be glad to. :-)

It will have to wait till I get out of the lab.

[thomaswest]

Re 141: It might not fit in an YEC model, but the disparity certainly does raise questions of whether we understand all the factors affecting redshift. The object raises the possibility that we have significant "unknown unknowns" with regard to redshift.

This is quite cutesy of Danny. All the factors that relate to faith-belief and evolution-denying? Can Danny name two or three such factors?

significant "unknown unknowns" with regard to invisible gods, undiscoverable 'powers', faith-based rejection of pixies, 189 schisms in Christian theology.

Lyle is the same. He has a Theory of the Ark. He is probably a fraud, but maybe a true-believer. All of this can be explained by Pixie Theory. Teach the controversy. Follow the money.