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To: FJ290

Are you sure that every Chinese Catholic Bishop believes in Communisn? What about all the Capitalist that now "operate" in China? Can't they, like the English, have a Nationalist Chruch?


16 posted on 08/12/2006 11:20:10 AM PDT by Blake#1
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To: Blake#1

Are you not aware that there is an underground Chinese Catholic Chure that is totally legitimate??


18 posted on 08/12/2006 11:28:49 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Blake#1
Are you sure that every Chinese Catholic Bishop believes in Communisn? What about all the Capitalist that now "operate" in China? Can't they, like the English, have a Nationalist Chruch?

To be sure if they are Communists or not, the Vatican must be in total control of their ordinations. We can not let some just slip through the cracks. As to your answer can't they be a Nationalist church like the English, in a word, NO.. not if they are going to claim to be Catholics in communion with the Pope.

22 posted on 08/12/2006 11:39:53 AM PDT by FJ290
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To: Blake#1

You're from California. How is it that the Anglican Church is a nationalist church in California?


45 posted on 08/12/2006 2:13:45 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Blake#1

Ummm, this is an asinine thread... The Vatican doesn't recognize the Chinese government as being able to Appoint anyone. Would you want France to appoint US state senators? Of course not. Doesn't work like that.

Anyhow, the issue is moot. The pope, as the descendant and recipient of the orders given to Peter, must anoint and elevate all bishops for them to be bishops, and to maintain the descendancy of all men who take holy orders from the original day when the Apostles were charged and empowered to do so.
TO be a catholic priest, one must receive Holy Orders from a Bishop. That Bishop must have received his orders from a Bishop. The Church as taken great pains to maintain a direct lineage to Peter himself. The Chinese government's interferance is nothing more than the latest attempt by a usurper to divert power from the Church for political means.

You should all, even you Protestants, know this already.


89 posted on 08/13/2006 12:55:01 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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