[BlackElk]

SV: There seems to be a consistent misunderstanding as to the term "Christian charity" that it somehow connotes a Kumbaya attitude and approach to the Church's enemies like the schismatic excommunicated leaders and adherents of Marcel's nasty little schism. The verbal abuse that they heaped upon the person and office of John Paul the Great ought not to be soon forgotten or forgiven. Note Fellay's speculation that they can be like the "Chinese Patriotic Church" and not in a "juridical relationship." Translation: Fellay wants to be his own pope, ignore Vatican discipline, have the excommunications lifted as a sort of Vatican surrender to its SSPX enemies, name its own bishops, continue its antisemitism, pose as Catholic by expressing hatred for the rest of Christianity but NOT at the expense of obedience to legitimate Church authority, etc.

Charity is telling these ecclesiastical criminals what they NEED to hear, not what they WANT to hear. Charity is love (i.e. what is BEST for the beloved) not cowardly make believe that seeks only not to offend the SSPX in their practice of evil. No Kumbayah, now or ever.

[wagglebee]

I couldn't agree more!

[Straight Vermonter]

I'm all for admonishing the sinner but vitriol does not leave much room for reconciliation. Let's try to remember that we are all anxious to worship God as best as we can.

I'd love to see the SSPX come back into the bosom of the Church. While some of the leaders may indeed have delusions of granduer, the membership in this group largely belongs because they love the Mass, the Eucharist and all that they were catechised to believe in. I suspect you would agree that love of the Mass, Eucharist, saints etc has not always been evident since VII.

Let's at least try to treat them as Christ treated Zaccheus. Especially now that they seem to be taking a half step back towards Rome. I suspect that a large percentage of the SSPX laity will be anxious to come back when the Mass is restored.

I for one will be ready to welcome them back.