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To: sitetest; sandyeggo; BlackElk
Thanks brother.

I was learnt fidelity and obedience were virtues. Who knew they'd be reinterpreted to become a vice. It is very difficult to keep abreast of the changes within the schism opposing the Living Magisterium. In fact, the change is, well, revolutionary, isn't it? For many, no longer does Roma Locuta est, Causa finita est exist.

45 posted on 10/23/2006 12:23:54 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic
Aren't those who are excommunicated unable to obtain spiritual benefits for others???? At least so long as they are excommunicated?

What's next----Fellay offering to cover for the pope during papal vacations????? I don't think B-XVI would agree.

46 posted on 10/23/2006 12:36:43 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: bornacatholic

"For many, no longer does Roma Locuta est, Causa finita est exist."

Nice snappy phrases you have. However, Rome has not spoken FINALLY on this issue obviously--nor on many issues actually. Otherwise, there would NEVER be a new need to issue new documents.

And BlackElk, regarding the "excommunicated," the "excommumications" within Ecclesia Dei Adflicta were supposed self imposed. They could be "material" and not "formal" and therefore, NOT valid. COULD be, I said. The new Code of Canon law (Ask Canon lawyers, NOT me!!!) with its emphasis on the subject rather than the object, makes it very difficult to declare anyone "excommunicated" except for the variety declared in Ecclesia Dei Adflicta.

Yes, in 1988, they were disobedient to the request of Pope John Paul II. No, no other documents have been issued AUTHORITATIVELY yet to replace it. However, both Campos and the Institute of Good Shepherd priests were required to recant NONE of their doctrinal views in order to reconcile canonically. NONE. As far as I know, the SSPX's official position on doctrine contains no errors nor heresy. I would be interested for Bornacatholic to point me toward specific words Bishop Felly used that were allegedly "anti-Semitic" as he claims.


47 posted on 10/23/2006 12:51:37 PM PDT by Mershon
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