* LOL I am not sure what that is but it sure makes me sound guilty of something
But thanks for the compliment. To be mentioned in the same breath as these two bastions of true Catholic thought in the midst of the Americanist "Catholic" madness is quite a tribute, but undeserved.
*Again, I have no idea of what you are writing about. I am a Christian Catholic who maintains the Bonds of Unity in Worship, Doctrine, and Authority. That makes me Catholic without any quotation marks. At least that is what The Living Magisterium Teaches.
Apparently, you do not keep up with the the writings of Pope Benedict XVI, NOR the previous head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith.
*Every day in my online mail account I get a link from the Vatican Information Service. How's about you? You can get it also. Sign-up is gratis at the Holy See website
All of your ruminations and private exegesis and picking and choosing of select sources does not an argument make.
*What I posted were apt sections of authentic and authoritative documents from the Living Magisterium and they are a direct refutation of your private judgement assertions concerning Tradition and the Mass and the Pope's authority. Your response is just a reflexive gainsaying of my Tradition Sourced post and it appears it is made from an imagined position of authority and your response references nothing authoritative or definitive.
The pope himself has said never before in the history of Catholicism has a rite of Mass (especially the Roman rite of 1600 years!!!) been suppressed. Never. He said the Pope is the SERVANT of Tradition, NOT its master.
*I have already posted the decision taken by Pope Paul VI in prolmugating the new missal. His authority was exercised in the very same way as Pope Saint Pius V exercised his authority when he promulagted the new missal back in the day. Pope Paul taught the reformed missal was an act of Tradition and a continuation of that Tradition. In other words he DID serve Tradition, although, admittedly, he did not serve what lefevbre thought Traditon was. But, then again, In Ecclesia Dei Johannes Paulus Magnus taught that lefevbre did not have a good grasp of Tradition. You have the very same problem it appears. Here is Johannes Paulus Magnus on that point....
The root of this schismatic act can be discerned in an incomplete and contradictory notion of Tradition. Incomplete, because it does not take sufficiently into account the living character of Tradition, which, as the Second Vatican Council clearly taught, "comes from the apostles and progresses in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit. There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are being passed on. This comes about in various ways. It comes through the contemplation and study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts. It comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. And it comes from the preaching of those who have received, along with their right of succession in the episcopate, the sure charism of truth".
But especially contradictory is a notion of Tradition which opposes the universal Magisterium of the Church possessed by the Bishop of Rome and the Body of Bishops. It is impossible to remain faithful to the Tradition while breaking the ecclesial bond with him to whom, in the person of the Apostle Peter, Christ himself entrusted the ministry of unity in his Church.
*You appear to be making the rash, accusatory and scandalous accusation Pope Paul VI did not serve Tradition. Is that your position?
Americanists everywhere we go. Don't let your jingoism interfere with your private interpretation of Catholicism
*Americanist? jingoism? As I said, I have no idea what you mean by "Americanist" but it sounds lke something I would be delighted to be guilty of.
* Jingoism? What does that have to do with this thread? You amy as well call me fatty or insist I have cooties. You, nor anyone else, has ever seen me post anything suggesting I am a jingoist ( Can I get a witness, sitetest. )
* If you have some Document from the Living Magisterium teaching otherwise than what I posted, feel free to ping me with the info.
However, I do not accept you as an authority about Tradition. The Living Magisterium is the authority.
Dear bornacatholic,
"* Jingoism? What does that have to do with this thread? You amy as well call me fatty or insist I have cooties. You, nor anyone else, has ever seen me post anything suggesting I am a jingoist ( Can I get a witness, sitetest. )"
* chuckle *
No. You're not a jingoist. You are a patriot. However, your patriotism appears to me to be that normal, moral love of country to which all Catholics are morally obligated.
sitetest