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To: bornacatholic
I gather that the SSPX schismatic excommunicati imagine that the depredations and demagogy of Annas and Caiaphas and a small crowd of agitators of Jewish ancestry or Faith were somehow empowered to bring condemnation down upon the heads of all of our contemporary Jewish brothers and sisters simply because they are Jews, all of the Jews who have lived from the days of Annas and Caiphas and company to this day of ours just because they are Jew, all the Jews who will live in the future just because they are Jews, and even the pious Jewish women of Jerusalem on that very day, who were utterly unaware of the shenanigans of Annas and Caiaphas much less of their impious words, but were busy preparing the Passover Seder for their G-dly, observant families, are condemned because Annas and Caiaphas called the wrath of God down upon the Jews, just because they were Jews?????

On this, it seems certain that dead excommunicated Marcel was flat out wrong and the Council was right. Of course, Jesus, Mary and all twelve apostles were Jews. Judas probably did not wind up as well as he might have but any cause of his damnation would have been his action(s) and not that of Annas and Caiaphas. St. Paul was a Jew. St. Stephen (martyred by St. Paul) was a Jew. All of the apostles other than Judas (recognized as saints each and every one) were Jews.

SSPX: what tiresome and hate-filled drivel they spew!

82 posted on 10/24/2006 12:42:03 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk; Mershon
The curse is then the punishment for the hardhearted rebelliousness of a people that has refused the time of its visitation, that has refused to convert and to live a moral, spiritual life, directed towards heaven. This curse is the punishment of blindness to the things of God and eternity, of deafness to the call of conscience and to the love of good and hatred of evil which is the basis of all moral life, of spiritual paralysis, of total preoccupation with an earthly kingdom.

*The SSPX actually teaches this antisemitism. I have yet to see ONE of its supporters repudiate this rank antisemitism. I guess all Jews do not live moral lives. They are all blind to the things of God and they are deaf to calls of conscience.

It is indeed very sad that the post-Conciliar Church has forgotten the elementary distinction described by Father Fahey, namely between opposition to Jewish Naturalism and hostility to the race. The door was opened to this, and to the subsequent acceptation of Judaism as a legitimate religion in the Vatican II Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions, Nostra Aetate. After correctly pointing out that the Jewish authorities pressed for the death of Christ, and that neither all Jews at that time, nor today "can be charged with the crimes committed during his Passion," it then continues with the outrageous statement, so contrary to Sacred Scripture, that "the Jews should not be spoken of as rejected or accursed as if this followed from holy Scripture." (§4) It is consequently considered that since the Church reproves every form of persecution, then we must respect their false national religion, regardless of the fact that its very existence is the sign of the curse of the national naturalism that has fallen upon them.

The January 2002 statement of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, entitled The Jewish People and their Sacred Scriptures in the Christian Bible, likewise refuses to make the same elementary distinction. It apologizes, for example, that certain New Testament passages that criticize the Pharisees had been used to justify anti-Semitism....

*The God of the antisemitic SSPX is remarkably simlar to the God of Calvinism who curses and damns entire races, not individuals. And those who do not think the "doctrine" of Fellay and the sspx is not antisemitic, men like Mershon, reveal they are antisemitic via acceptance of the schism's "doctrine."

*The SSPX clearly repudiates the Living Magisterium and takes its "doctrine" from an antisemite like Fr. Fahey. Have you ever read his books? I have. He was a rank antisemite and Jewish conspiratorialist. Of course, Seattle Catholic, the SSPX, The Remnant, the Catholic Family News, Fr Gruener, et al are all antisemitic and all cite Fr. Fahey. Most insist me MUST be antisemitic. It is insane, yes. But, that is what those who oppose the Church have in common. Antisemitism is the rennert binding them all together.

*I am somewhat at a loss as to how a "doctrine" like this is going to renew America but such "doctrine" is very reminiscent of the antisemitism that went hand in glove with so many american firsters and harkens back to Fr Coughlin, Fr. Feeney, and all the long-discredited Jewish Conspiracy theories..

*And I am supposed to think this the Catholic Church needs to be renewed by this heretical nitwit outfit?

83 posted on 10/24/2006 2:48:17 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: BlackElk; sitetest
The SSPX's antisemitism is clearly hateful, insane, irrational, and heretical and YET have you EVER seen even ONE of the sspx supporters repudiate its antisemitism?

NO

Fellay's mouthpiece, The Angelus publicly and officiallly teaches rank antisemitism and I am supposed to think a reconcciliation with these heretical haters will be a boon to Holy Mother Church?

Good Lord. What the heck is wrong with people? Hoc can anyone stomach such garbage?

86 posted on 10/24/2006 3:49:48 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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