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To: bornacatholic; NYer; Salvation; Nihil Obstat; mileschristi; TeĆ³filo

Doing a little tinkering here and there with the 1984 Indult will not bring Fellay & Co. back into the fold. The Lefebvrists will settle for nothing less than having the Holy See reject a valid Ecumenical Council, which, of course, makes no sense.


5 posted on 11/08/2006 6:25:14 AM PST by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96; bornacatholic

You and bornacatholic have repeatedly shown over and over again that you have no idea whatsoever about what your are speaking.

Cardinal Ricard can wish lots of things. The Pope is resolved. The Pope does not like "lobbying" and isn't influenced by media accounts depending upon which side of the fence they are coming from.

The shift we are about to see will be dramatic. The Pope has already shown with the FSSP, the ICR and the Institute of Good Shepherd that Vatican II is not the course from which we guide our ships. It is Vatican II "in light of Tradition." The true meaning of this has not been defined.

I have read lots of the more recent writings from Bishop Fellay, and nowhere do I see him denying that Vatican II is a legitimate Council. What he does deny is that it was dogmatic. He also denies that the documents themselves are clearly in line with tradition. I said "clearly."

The Holy Ghost protected the Church from promulgating de fide documents that contained heresy. That is the protection of the Holy Ghost.

The Institute of Good Shepherd has been assigned by the Holy See that task of doing theology on Vatican II "in light of Tradition."

Let's talk about the other 20 Councils, shall we? What do any of you know about them?


6 posted on 11/10/2006 8:33:04 AM PST by Mershon
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