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To: xzins
You speak of Mt. 12:31-32:

31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Twisting? Hardly. In the plain sense of the text, according to vs. 32, the sin of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is a sin that cannot be forgiven in this world (which I'm assuming most take no issues with), nor in the world to come. That said, if there were no sins forgivable in the world to come, this last part of Christ's statement would not be necessary. There are the sins that are forgiven here (via the sacrament of penance normatively or by perfect contrition) and those that are remitted after death (in Purgatory).

39 posted on 01/29/2007 10:30:30 AM PST by GCC Catholic
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To: GCC Catholic; xzins

"neither in the world to come."

"There are the sins that are forgiven here (via the sacrament of penance normatively or by perfect contrition) and those that are remitted after death (in Purgatory)."

Can't be. In your world the world is now and purgatory is now, not a "world to come".


43 posted on 01/29/2007 10:39:21 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: GCC Catholic; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; P-Marlowe

Sorry, but this verse is talking about:

1. This world.

2. The world to come.

Anyone in either of those worlds who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven.

It is speaking either of the Old Covenant (this world) and the New Covenant (the world to come) or of the Present World (this world) and the Millennial Kingdom of God (world to come.)

Since the passage is already speaking of the Kingdom of God, this is the clear interpretation of scripture.

You better hope that the "world to come" is not DEATH.

Jesus promised ETERNAL LIFE.


55 posted on 01/29/2007 11:06:23 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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