"I know, and it doesn't work does it?
NFP works"
That's not what you were talking about nor what I was responding to. The dogmatic declaration hasn't worked, NYer. NFP, like other kinds of birth control works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. That's not the point.
"You're really stretching it here, aren't you, K?"
You really think so? Why is Roman Catholic contraceptive usage marginally higher than the rest of the population then? For that matter, why is the abortion rate for Catholic women substantially (not marginally, substantially) higher than for Protestant women?
In the meantime, abortion is murder. That's an easy case, NYer. I do have to wonder why, however, the abortion rate among Catholic women is so high.
Ouch, sports fans! K comes out with an upper-cut. N is stunned, but gathering strength.
Of course it works. The problem, obviously, is that those who hear it are not listening. They would prefer to hear those positions that support their practices. That is not about to happen!
Why is Roman Catholic contraceptive usage marginally higher than the rest of the population then? For that matter, why is the abortion rate for Catholic women substantially (not marginally, substantially) higher than for Protestant women?
Personal choice! If I turn a deaf ear to what my priest tells me, I have then opted to follow my conscience, even if it is diametrically opposed to what the Church teaches. That is not the fault of the Church.
I do have to wonder why, however, the abortion rate among Catholic women is so high.
Is it? What is the abortion rate among Catholics?
Turrning a deaf ear towards the teachings of one's Church does not negate them. On the other hand, when a Church accedes to the weaknesses of its members and justifies their failings, I would step back and take a closer look.
Let's just say your assertion about contraceptive use and abortions among Catholics are accurate. (I have never seen those statistics, but honestly it wouln't surprise me, at least the abortion one)
So what?
What does that have to do with the truth or wisdom of a particular teaching? Last time I checked truth wasn't a popularity contest. Look at Christ in John 6. As a majority of His followers abandoned Him due to His teachings, did He modify anything, decide that He was wrong? No. So why does the fact that people refuse to believe something make it in error?