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To: DreamsofPolycarp

The End Time’s primary purpose is the reconcilation between Israel and God.

God’s convenent with His people still stands.

Roman 11:1 So I ask, God has not rejected his people, has he? Absolutely not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew! ...

Rom 11:25 For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: A partial hardening has happened to Israel18 until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

“The Deliverer will come out of Zion;
he will remove ungodliness from Jacob.
And this is my covenant with them,
when I take away their sins.”

In regard to the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but in regard to election they are dearly loved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable. Just as you were formerly disobedient to God, but have now received mercy due to their disobedience, so they too have now been disobedient in order that, by the mercy shown to you, they too may now receive mercy.


190 posted on 05/22/2007 7:34:08 AM PDT by pacelvi
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To: pacelvi
the End Time’s primary purpose is the reconcilation between Israel and God.

The true Israel is already being reconciled to God. It started at Calvary and I am a part of it. I have claim to every single one of the Abrahamic promises by being in Christ.

God’s convenent with His people still stands. It certainly does. That covenant includes the curses of the covenant which include breaking off and expulsion from the covenant community for unbelief. The covenant was NEVER made with geopolitical entity (there was no established nation of Israel at the time of Abraham, and only a loose confederation of tribes under Moses), but with a believing worshiping community. Further, the promises were NOT restricted to those of the descent of Abraham, but provisions were made in the OT for the incorporation of gentiles into the community. This has been "superexpanded" in the NT, and the barriers between Jew and "other" have been forever smashed and obliterated by the cross of Christ, so that we are now ALL jews who are of the faith of Abraham. We are ALL recipients of the covenant blessings. In light of that, I am exteremely grateful that "God's covenant with his people still stands." I suspect that you have a withered stunted and narrow view of who "His people" refer to, and are still trying, like the Jews of Jesus's time -- to restrict them to those of Abraham's bloodline. You are 2000 years out of date on that one.

Roman 11:1 So I ask, God has not rejected his people, has he? Absolutely not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew! ...

YES! GOD has never rejected his people, which includes ALL types of men. There are still Jews getting saved too! Paul is an illustration. However, they are not all "Israel" who are descended from Israel. A man is a "jew" if he is one inwardly, and his circumcision is of the heart by the Spirit. Therefore, Paul declares ME and ALL men who have the faith of Abraham to be true Jews. So, no, God's promises have not and cannot fail to his people.

A partial hardening has happened to Israel1 until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved

ALL the true Israel will be saved. I believe that towards the end, the sons of Abraham will be grafted back in which will lead to an even greater fulness of the gentiles.

However, none of this means that there will be a political restoration of a nation state of "Israel" much less the rebuilding of a temple (HORRORS! what a slap in the face to the finished work of Christ!!) or any of the other stuff so integral to the pretrib premil group.

198 posted on 05/22/2007 8:24:12 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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