I have dealt with Thomas Ice ans Pseudo Ephraim before. Let me just say that Ice is very dishonest in his citations. I will get back with you on this,, but He and Grant Jeffreys are just plain liars and deceitful on this issue. I am busy right now.but I can respond further if you wish. At any rate, I would not cite either Ice or Jeffreys as honest scholars in this debate.
Please do!
I take no refuge in liars. I appreciate the honestly of true scholarship.