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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey

:::MB: So Raphael catches prayers directly to God in some sort of heavenly bucket and then presents them to God? I thought that Jesus was the only intermediary in Reformed doctrine. This gets better and better.

MLG: You are confusing the role Christ stands in as the Intermediary as a defense attorney for the Redeemed, with those who offer intercessory prayer, and then twist the meanings for license to practice necromancy and the invoking of angels, both of which are forbidden by God.:::

Pray then speak of the heavenly prayer buckets toted about by the angels, if you would. I think that the self-identified Reformed Redeemed are going to need a very good defense attorney; I suspect that that indwelling heartburn will turn out to be just that.

Catholics do not practice necromancy any more than they practice cannibalism. There is really little excuse, with the immense archives and websites available for all, even the Paulines, to really dig in and truly understand Catholicism. ‘Tis a pity that your frantic hyperbole is the stereotypical sound and fury...


10,306 posted on 11/02/2007 9:47:23 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Pray then speak of the heavenly prayer buckets toted about by the angels, if you would.

As I have already explained, thsoe angels in John's Book of the Revelation who take the prayers of the saints into the Throneroom of God do so as messengers, directed by God.

Where Rome makes it's fatal mistake is to twist that one example into a license to pray to angels, which takes a quantum leap to arrive at that conclusion. Not really, as is often the case, Rome begins with it's own concepts contrived by men and reads them back into passages such as you cited in Revelation where it does not exist, just as Rome did when contriving the "two swords doctrine", and a host of others.

I think that the self-identified Reformed Redeemed are going to need a very good defense attorney

Our Mediator is Christ, who we trust exclusively to have done everything neccessary for our Redemption upon the Cross to which we can add not one single thing, and Who clothes us in His Righteousness, as a Delightfully Robed Bride perfectly acceptable to the Father, not on account of any single thing we have done, but because of what Christ did on our behalf as our Kinsman Redeemer.

I suspect that that indwelling heartburn will turn out to be just that.

Au contraire, when Christ asks you: "Why should I allow YOU into My heaven?", and you say, "I trusted the pope, I did good works, I finshed the work you began on the Cross, I ate your real, actual flesh and drank your real, actual blood...", it will be sad indeed when you hear the words, "Wrong answer, away with you worker of iniquity, I never knew you."

Catholics do not practice necromancy

Sure Roman Catholics practice necromancy. Necromancy is the attempt to contact the spirits of those who have departed this space/time continuum, which is precisely what you do when praying to saints who have passed from this life.

There is really little excuse, with the immense archives and websites available for all, even the Paulines, to really dig in and truly understand Catholicism.

I do understand Roman Catholicism, which is precisely why I know it is apostate.

10,458 posted on 11/05/2007 3:42:49 PM PST by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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