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To: Forest Keeper

When Jesus Ascended, all efforts of the Church were man-made.

God gave His authority to the Church; rather than the whims of individuals.


6,334 posted on 09/15/2007 4:08:57 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; kosta50; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; hosepipe
When Jesus Ascended, all efforts of the Church were man-made.

That is exactly what I would say about the RCC, so I am led to believe that you did not mean this in the way I took it. :) My understanding of the Apostolic view is that the Holy Spirit specifically guides the hierarchy of the Church on the most important matters, but forsakes the laity of the same leadership. However, here you have the Spirit not even leading (with certainty) your hierarchy. Is this really the case? When I consider the rulings of the early Church, should I consider them all to be "man-made"?

God gave His authority to the Church; rather than the whims of individuals.

God LENT SOME of His authority to HIS Church. And I would agree with you that God did not give His authority to the whims of individuals, such as the Pope speaking ex cathedra. :)

6,644 posted on 09/19/2007 2:54:10 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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