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To: kosta50
This makes the oldest non-Apostolic "church" about 550 years old, circa 1500 years after the Lord established His. Take your pick.

Are you saying that when your religion murdered all those groups of 'heretics' in the early centuries, none of them survived??? You got 'em all??? You broke the lines???

66 posted on 07/23/2007 7:16:14 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: Iscool
Are you saying that when your religion murdered all those groups of 'heretics' in the early centuries, none of them survived??? You got 'em all??? You broke the lines???

No, satan is still alive and well, and forming new 'churches' every day.

106 posted on 07/23/2007 9:01:00 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Iscool
Are you saying that when your religion murdered all those groups of 'heretics' in the early centuries, none of them survived??? You got 'em all??? You broke the lines???

Well, the early century heretics included Arians who thought that Christ was created by God as His first creation, then also Gnostics who believed that the God of the Bible was a false, "lower" God and that Christ was sent by the "higher" God to make humanity escape the "false" creations of the "false" God. Then, there were heretics who thought that those who denied Christ when persecuted by the Romans should not be taken back (but cast into the outer regions where there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth). Then, folks who said, it's only deeds that count, not God's grace (Pelagians). Then, those who said it's only a chosen few who would be saved (and by a sheer co-incidence, the chosen few were those folks only) like the Albigensians and Cathars.

And yes, some heresies still survive -- like Islam, which is a heresy based on Arianism (to my mind) mixed with Zoroastrianism, pre-Islamic Arabic religions etc into a half-baked mix.
3,637 posted on 08/21/2007 10:51:05 PM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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