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To: MarkBsnr
If the elect means an exclusive club that you are entered into before you were even born, with little radio voices telling you things, preprogrammed behaviour that means nothing anyway, and everlasting heartburn, then no I don’t.

There isn't a "club". There is either the saved or the unsaved. You assume that everyone was meant to go to heaven or that God must give a "fair" shake to everyone. The fact is we are all wicked destined, deservedly, for hell. God happens to save some of us, for reasons only known to Him, to do His will to bring glory to Him. Making a good decision on our part has nothing to do with anything. We saw the light because He so willed it. All we can do is wonder at His mercy and grace.

6,891 posted on 09/21/2007 8:43:51 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Never claimed that God has to do anything.

I just look at the Bible to see what He says. And He says nothing about creating men in order to trash them. God says that He loved the whole world so much that He sent His Son. He says, too that the Judgement in Heaven is of what people have done.

The Gospels depict a God of Love; Who has laid out the path for us in order to attain everlasting life. The early Christians called Christianity Via - the Way. It is a Way, a journey, a life, it is not a prebirth condition like your hair colour.

Creating men to discard like a dirty diaper is not indicative of the God of Love; it depicts a whimsical and emotionally unstable God of Self Indulgence, much like the Greek, Roman and Norse gods. Why would Jesus go through His Crucifixion and Resurrection for some men? It says that He did it for all men.


6,896 posted on 09/21/2007 8:55:38 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: HarleyD; MarkBsnr
You assume that everyone was meant to go to heaven or that God must give a "fair" shake to everyone

Of course He does! He is not partial. Does not the sun shine on the pious and impious?

6,977 posted on 09/21/2007 10:09:30 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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