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To: Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; D-fendr; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; jo kus; xzins; ...

If you're going to use a Scripture generator, Kosta, you should use it correctly. Taking verses out of context when the context defines the verses is against the rules. (Maybe you lost the manual.)

My verse generator is Protestant, and taking verses out of context is part of its operating system, by design.  I was simply doing what Protestants do all the time.  :)

Sounds to me like God is very partial to those who "worketh good" and not so partial to those who "doeth evil."

Sounds to me as if we have a vocabulary problem here. Being partial, dear doctor or whatever you are, is a negative characteristic in the English language. It is rather synonymous with being one-sided, unfair, prejudiced, and unjust.

God is not "partial" to those who "worketh good," but just. He is also just to those who "worketh evil."  God is always just to everyone.

His judgment applies to everyone equally regardless if you are elect, select, chosen, predestined, a Jew or a Gentile.

Kosta: "My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism." [James 2:1]  (was that a barb directed at +Paul?)

Dr. E: LOL. Not likely. It was Paul who wrote "But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord" (2 Corinthians 10:17).

LOL indeed. It is no secret that the two did not care much for each other and that it was +Paul who boasts of God's favoritism (the elect).

The Jews were not elected to boast or profit from it, but to spread the knowledge of God to all nations. "Salvation is from the Jews." They were chosen to do God's work, and not to boast. Apparently, +Paul did not see it that way. He was among those who felt that the elect were allowed to boast and +James corrected him.

6,991 posted on 09/22/2007 6:17:26 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Alamo-Girl
James corrected him

LOL. Your first comment on James "correcting" Paul was a guess, as you admitted when you wrote "was that a barb directed at +Paul?"

Now it's a fact? LOLOL.

I suppose this is how oral tradition works.

6,994 posted on 09/22/2007 6:46:16 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50; 1000 silverlings; Forest Keeper; wmfights; HarleyD; P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan; ...
Sounds to me as if we have a vocabulary problem here. Being partial, dear doctor or whatever you are, is a negative characteristic in the English language. It is rather synonymous with being one-sided, unfair, prejudiced, and unjust.

Sounds to me like you just make this stuff up.

According to the dictionary...

Partial

1) Of, relating to, being, or affecting only a part; not total; incomplete

2) Favoring one person or side over another or others

3) Having a particular liking or fondness for something or someone


6,995 posted on 09/22/2007 6:56:57 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg
Being partial, dear doctor or whatever you are, is a negative characteristic in the English language

Nope. FYI I'm partial to chicken and dumplings and apple pie

6,997 posted on 09/22/2007 7:05:25 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg

***God is not “partial” to those who “worketh good,” but just. He is also just to those who “worketh evil.” God is always just to everyone.***

I would say, good doctor, that if Catholics want to rely on God’s justice, they are free to do that. I believe that we are right to plead with the Lord for his grace.


7,074 posted on 09/24/2007 7:54:56 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; MarkBsnr; D-fendr; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; jo kus; xzins; ...
[Kosta to Dr. E.:] Sounds to me as if we have a vocabulary problem here. Being partial, dear doctor or whatever you are, is a negative characteristic in the English language. It is rather synonymous with being one-sided, unfair, prejudiced, and unjust.

Ah, perhaps we are nearing a breakthrough. You are saying that Biblical "partiality" is synonymous with the English language terms "one-sided, unfair, prejudiced, and unjust". The KEY is that all of those English language terms are from the human perspective. So, you would say that God is impartial means that God is not unfair, IN HUMAN TERMS, etc. The Apostolic position is that God offers every man a "fair" chance at a grace plus works salvation IN HUMAN TERMS, etc. Somehow, some way, that God's ways are not man's ways does not apply to the Apostolic salvation model. For that model, God MUST adopt human standards of one-sidedness, fairness, prejudice, and justice.

This is a big disagreement among us. We would say that it is perfectly fair for God to choose whom among His creation He wants to be in Heaven. Apostolics would say that would be unfair UNLESS He gave everyone an equal shot at being chosen. Those are purely human standards, and in THIS case they are wrong because they limit God's sovereignty.

7,123 posted on 09/24/2007 10:56:28 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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