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To: tbpiper
You should read Newman's autobiography, Apologia Pro Vita Sua. It was the result of a public exchange of correspondence between Newman and Charles Kingsley, an immensely gifted man (Westward Ho!, The Water Babies) but an implacable anti-Catholic. Kingsley accused Newman of dishonesty, and Newman basically blasted Kingsley out of the water. He is a remarkable man.
71 posted on 07/29/2007 4:42:37 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Charles Kingsley, an immensely gifted man, (Lewis)a leading Christian apologist and writer, a serious scholar, a man learned in Scripture, and a devout Christian.

These are the terms you've used (accurately) to describe these men and give them creditability, but that doesn't mean their opinions are to be accepted without challenge.

Kingsley, though a gifted man 'was sympathetic to the idea of evolution, and was one of the first to praise Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species...(and) stated that he(Kingsley) had 'long since, from watching the crossing of domesticated animals and plants, learnt to disbelieve the dogma of the permanence of species' so on that ground alone I'd be suspicious of any of his theological musings.

If Kingsley's attack on Newman was more personal than theological, he should have been blasted out of the water. Newman's personal honesty, I think, is demonstrated by his eventual move to the Catholic church rather than remaining a 'Calvinist Anglican'.

Whatever descriptives that can be attached to these men or any of us, whether scholar, devout Christian, Cardinal, or Pope, if our beliefs do not square with the scriptures then we are just simply wrong no matter how 'reasonable' or comforting those beliefs may be.

74 posted on 07/29/2007 7:45:33 AM PDT by tbpiper
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