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Posted on 12/31/2007 8:21:48 PM PST by Salvation
Give me a break. You challenge my account? YOU post the URL of the thread.
Apparently not. It would seem that's what got my "prom queen" post deleted. I was specifically and explicitly referring to the mental image forming in my mind, but apparently THAT was a personal "attack," too!
Is this so distressful to you? To be asked for substantiation of ridiculous, unproven claims about my faith?
If I believe something the RCC teaches is ridiculous or unproven, I'll back up my opinion with Scripture and historical links.
Because you gave no substantiation for your outlandish claim that you saw some Protestant in some Protestant church in Manhattan at some point in time kneeling to a statue of Mary, I replied that you must want us to believe that bizarre statement just because you said it was true since you offered no evidence for it.
This is a public forum. All we have are opinions and supporting documents we can either link to or excerpt.
You gave neither. You only gave your opinion which, as you've said about my opinions, means next to nothing.
And with that, I agree. Our opinions mean nothing when compared to the word of God which, by the grace of God, is offered as clear, constant and truthful rebuttal to the RCC on this forum and in this thread.
Please furnish some evidence for your assertion about this purported Mary-worshipping Protestant, or we're all likely to conclude you expect us to believe something so outrageous just because you say it is true.
And while you're at it, why don't you link us to the former caucus thread you believe was incorrectly opened to all faiths.
LOL. If your "conviction" is a personally derogatory remark about another FReeper, then it is against the FR rules...again.
Most likely it was a Catholic visitor.
I'm content to believe the Religion Moderator acted according to the RF rules. I read the thread myself and saw where other faiths were invoked.
You have a problem with this fact. You are contesting the decision of the Religion Moderator.
Therefore it's up to YOU to prove that decision wrong.
Again, I hope you're not making all these statements in order to get the thread pulled.
I recall you posting on this thread that Catholics “don’t understand the Gospel”.
That was a broad statement and not supportable by facts.
I didn’t feel “abused”, but I certainly was not amused and I surely believe that your statement—left standing as you posted it-—is not truth and not accurate.
That is good reason for Catholics to be disturbed by such blanket statements offered as fact.
We are no exception in wanting to defend truth as we know it.
Does anyone else see the run away political correctness in this?
My opinion is that you all simply cannot bear the existence of Catholics and cannot tolerate our enjoying ourselves. Consequently, when you can, like the big kids at the playground, you come into our threads and try to run us off. Since you haven't managed to make me leave by insult heaped upon insult and preposterous characterization piled on top of refusal to hear what we really think but, rather eagerness to profess that you know our hearts better then we do ourselves, now you are appealing to the RM, in hopes that he or she or they will do what you cannot.
Some of you have said that the outrage our beliefs inspired in you is justification for coarseness and childish insult. It has been said that for us merely to post a thread about what we believe is justification for an assault.
It was only when the thinness of that argument became apparent that you all retreated to the "this is not a private line" distraction.
Its being public is, of course, no grounds for the kind of condescending tripe you all have piled on to the conversation. Mere openness neither explains nor excuses the kind of assault this topic has been under since Quix asked his question about postage stamps and ScubieNuc got all bent out of shape over Mary's complexion in the paintings.
It is only paranoid Protestants who think that the only possible meaning of "familiar" is demonic. I have already said so. I don't recall your being given the authority to control my use of words which are intrinsically neutral. If you choose to think that your associates are thought of as demonic, there's not a whole lot I can do about that. It's hour problem.
I don't know what you mean exactly when you write "All I noticed was that you were once again 'making it personal' and this breaking the rules of the RF."
Is this thing I was allegedly doing "once again" calling you Your Majesty (which isn't, strictly speaking, a name) and which I wasn't doing again, but which I was explaining because instead of making an argument you issued a pronouncement and expected, or seemed to expect that it be treated like truth merely on the grounds of your saying it, as though you were an authority. My refcollections merit doubt, your opinions are owed submission. Not going to happen
You asked. I answered.
The first time you objected to "Your Majesty" you didn't say anything about "making it personal", you just said name-calling was against the rules, and even though I thought I could put a name to the game that was being played, I stopped referring to you that way.
FInalkly, the answer to your question is NO. I am trying to give you back what you dish out and to resist what I think are some behaviors of yours and your familiars (I"ll consider stopping with the "Familiars' when Quix stops with his made up words and "Rubber" stuff) which I hesitate to characterize because you would say it was making it personal, but it has to do with the need to dominate.
Again, you asked. I answered.
And I'm so glad that this nonsense about Protestants not appealing to the RM is now put to rest -- at least I hope it is.
It may well have been, although I don't know too many Protestant churches that have statues of Mary in them.
Perhaps some Episcopalian churches do, but we haven't been given any clue as to the identity of this purported Protestant kneeler in front of Mary in some Protestant church at some point in time somewhere in Manhattan.
If it were true, it would be PC. But it is not true. It is a slander IMHO.
More like fascism.
But your remakr suggests that maybe you don't really appreciate High Church Episcopalians 40 years ago and what "Smokey Mary's" (as the Episcopal Church of Saint Mary the Virgin is affectionately known) was like. I've never seen anything like it anywhere!
Not that there's anything personal in that observation ......
You never said you saw a Catholic kneeling to a statue of Mary in a Protestant church.
If you wish to change your story now, go right ahead.
I don't understand. Why don't you want the thread pulled?
That was a broad statement and not supportable by facts.
IIRC, a couple RC posters attempted to explain THE GOSPEL as the sermon on the mount and the first two commandments.
That is good reason for Catholics to be disturbed by such blanket statements offered as fact.
Fair enough. You could have jumped in at anytime to correct your fellow RC's and explain that they do teach THE GOSPEL in the RCC.
My religion has been called "robotic" and "lies from the pit of hell."
Yet I can distinguish between comments about my religion from comments about me, i.e. "deranged prom queen with a hacksaw going after her fellow students."
The former is discourse. The latter is "making it personal."
You know, if I learned these rules (which took me years on this forum) anyone should be able to learn it. It's not that difficult.
Discuss the faith, the topic, the subject, the verse, the dogma, the doctrine, the congregation, but do not discuss individual FReepers.
Acceptable statements would be: "Roman Catholicism is theological fascism" and "Calvinism is robotic fatalism."
But I cannot call you a fascist and you cannot call me a robot.
Get it now?
Because I try not to waste my time.
And whenever and wherever the word of God is preached, it is good.
Is that why you said you wouldn't mind if the thread was pulled?
I do not by any means want to change my story and your suggestion that I do is "making it personal" ,and a little premature end-one dance.
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