HE INCREASES AND SHE DECREASES [Mary, Mother of God]

The Rock ^ | May 1994 | Mark Shea

[Mad Dawg]

The jig is up, Quix. You've explained that this isn't about conversation or objectivity or anything other than causing pain to bring us to your idea of Jesus.

So why even pretend to take part in your alleged experiment? Your commitment is not to the truth but to waking us up to YOUR truth. You've just explained the behavior we've all suspected but haven't found a way to ID. The rudeness, the shucking and jiving, the remarkable insults which would get one a whipping in a REAL town square, the frank eagerness to inflict pain -- it's all been explained!

We didn't GET your number, you GAVE it to us -- yours and Dr. E's and Wiley Pink's and ScubieNuc's and all the other PROT-REPS who simply cannot look at a question objectively and understand the other guy's POV -- you gave us all we need to know. It's not about true or fair and especially not about reasonable, it's about you all WINNING and having a divine license to be as nasty as you wanna be to win our souls for Christ.

This is a huge relief, The explicit renunciation of truth, equity, and courtesy .... well I feel like an abused child feels when someone confirms to him that, yes, he has been truly abused and he didn't deserve it and it's not because he did anything wrong.

Of course you all are abusing us for our own good, but in my book it's still abuse -- and you copped to it! Y'll deny it and the others will wag their heads, and disassociate themselves, but you copped to it and now it's all clear: Abuse a Catholic Freeper for Christ! Yeah HOWdy!

[Mad Dawg]

I think my skepticism about the fairmindedness of RC reps toward counting such lines is a very, very, very reasonable concern given the vast evidence of such in general about VERY BASIC SCRIPTURES protties have often cited hereon.

Oh yeah - they disagree with you, they MUST be unfair!

[reagandemocrat]

I didn’t run to the mod, you did.

You want to go off on another wild goose chase, be my guest...

Just don’t expect me to follow.

[ScubieNuc]

Since you haven't managed to make me leave by insult heaped upon insult and preposterous characterization piled on top of refusal to hear what we really think but, rather eagerness to profess that you know our hearts better then we do ourselves

As for myself, I don't recall ever claiming to "know your heart" or "your mind." I have made assumptions of where your questions were leading and tried to get to the heart of the matter right away. You read one such example as mind reading and got all defensive.

What was ironic was that my attempt to be clear was muddled up by your defensiveness.

On the contrary, your posts to me are constantly filled with your supposed insight into my purposes or understanding. I'm not insulted by that, just frustrated that you wish to keep things muddied up.

What I would point out is your actions, not what's in your heart, mind or intention. Read the verses below and note what I highlight. They are actions, actions that are done by Catholics to this day.

Exdodus 20:4-5 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;

(As a side note, I wasn't 'bend out of shape' about the art work, but just asking questions. Also, I had been avoiding the Religion forum for months, and this article was on the Breaking News forum. I thought it was about Hillary and Obama, so I checked it out.

The good news is that my mistake has re-stimulated me into more Bible study. So, to all those who posted to me, thank you for helping reaffirm the everlasting truth that is the Bible.)

[Quix]

we don’t have to try to take what they say seriously.

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No one ever HAS HAD to take seriously

ANYTHING

ANYONE

asserts that’s wholesale false.

Why hitch one’s emotions to

ANYTHING

ANYONE says

which is false, per one’s own constructions on reality?

Curious.

Of course, if something jangly

is NOT false . . . then, that may be a different matter entirely.

[Quix]

The jig is up, Quix. You’ve explained that this isn’t about conversation or objectivity or anything other than causing pain to bring us to your idea of Jesus.

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Oh, I suppose I can understand how one can construe things in such an altered way . . .

but I didn’t expect a great deal of understanding anyway.

It has to be enough that Jesus understands.

[Quix]

Please show me where and how many times I asked the Mod to punish anyone else.

On any thread.

Please show me where I appealed to the Mod to take my side.

Please show me where I asked the Mod to give me any kind of redress or take any action whatsoever.

I have . . . and that fairly rarely . . . when a rash of rushes to the mod have occurred from the RC side of things . . . included the mod in the addressee list to appraise the mod of the context of one perspective on the Protty side of things.

But there I go again, expecting the RC side of things to make fine distinctions. LOL.

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN!

[Ciexyz]

Prayers offered up for our political process and the 2008 presidential election.

[reagandemocrat]

>>>I have . . . and that fairly rarely . . . when a rash of rushes to the mod have occurred from the RC side of things . . . included the mod in the addressee list to appraise the mod of the context of one perspective on the Protty side of things.<<<

Sorry. I thought that when you reported me the Mod in post 2705 you were upset with something I’d written...

Now I see that you were simply ‘appraising the mod of the context’ of your side.

Thank you for clearing that up..

[reagandemocrat]

>>>Mod in post 2705<<<

Post 2965, (my bad)

[Quix]

Sorry. I thought that when you reported me the Mod in post 2705 you were upset with something I’d written...

I guess we have to add

RUBBERIZED TWILIGHT ZONE

to the wealth of resources in the RC edifice camp.

2705

in --my-- experience of FR in --my-- multiverse in --my-- galaxy in --my-- solar system on --my-- current planet

included NO other addressee . . .

and certainly not the Mod.

NOR did I ping him in any of the posts 15 posts before or after 2705.

I'm curious . . . what color is the sky on that other planet? Are there two suns or one? Two moons or one? Do humanoids on that planet have any skin at all? Maybe they wear bioengineered hazmat suits to contain their bodily cell structures? Some think the greys do that.

BTW, has Mary said anything to any RC reps about her compassions and ministrations, dispensings of grace toward the greys?

[Quix]

2965?

Oh, Wellllll, here’s those posts . . . for the context:

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To: Quix; Mad Dawg
This has really turned into an interesting thread.

Sola Scriptura guys citing to biblecodedigest.com and Calvanist folks citing to Newadvent.com-—what’s next?

Cue Rod Serling.

2,964 posted on 01/22/2008 10:16:20 AM MST by reagandemocrat
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To: reagandemocrat; Religion Moderator
BRAZEN FALSE ACCUSATIONS AND ASSAULTS ARE INCREASINGLY HIDEOUS.

1. I did not raise the Bible Codes at all.

2. The Bible Codes were raised by the RC edifice reps hereon as a way to assault, insult, deride, demean, dismiss me and anything I said . . .

3. Pretty brazenly cheeky to do that for those reasons and THEN ON TOP OF THAT to assault me for mentioning it? Sheesh.

4. Cue Rod Serling, indeed.

5. I’m not claiming per se rule violating openly personal assault . . . but pretty close.

2,965 posted on 01/22/2008 10:24:14 AM MST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)

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I wasn’t asking for any intervention by the RM. I did want his witness given his long history of observing me vis a vis the Bible Codes.

In the above reposted sequence, I was evidently . . . likely as judged by any fair-minded panel of linguistic experts . . . being . . . shall we say . . . UNPRAISED . . . for having anything to do with the Bible Codes . . .

AND THEN, on top of that . . . BLAMED, contextually castigated . . . for raising the Bible Codes issue . . .

WHEN IN FACT, THE RC reps HAD INITIALLY, ORIGINALLY on this thread, raised the issue of the Codes and UFO’s as a way to

. . . UNPRAISE . . . me and my judgment.

But, PLEASE, TELL ME that I’ve misconstrued it and that the RC edifice was REALLY TRYING TO PRASIE ME for my fascination with Bible Codes and UFO’s.

THEN, the Protties & I can have a great time rolling in the asiles at the cute RC edifice joke.

[reagandemocrat]

(ppssst..see the preceding post..You referred me to the mod at post 2965, not 2705)