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To: Cicero
‘The question is how to give the Ignatian experience to a Buddhist’, he says. ‘Not maybe formulated in Christian terms, which is what Ignatius asked, but to go to the core of the experience.

Sorry, but Ignatius and the "Ignatian experience" were all about Christ and being a Christian.

If the good Fr. Nicolas wants to be a Zen master, he should go off and do it on his own dime and leave the Jesuits to get back to following Christ.

8 posted on 01/19/2008 7:01:42 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Oh, dear. Say it isn’t so.


9 posted on 01/19/2008 8:23:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: livius; Cicero

Sigh, they need to dump the New Age angst and get back to preaching the Gospel in and out of season. Maybe they should be required to study the lives of the Jesuit missionaries and martyrs who have been raised to the altars.


10 posted on 01/19/2008 8:45:29 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: livius; Cicero
If the good Fr. Nicolas wants to be a Zen master, he should go off and do it on his own dime and leave the Jesuits to get back to following Christ.

I believe Cicero's above posted link is to a different Jesuit, Fr. Robert Kennedy, not Fr. Nicolas. Cicero, was there a particular reason why you posted a link to him when the discussion is on Fr. Nicolas?

21 posted on 01/20/2008 4:11:26 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: livius

My sentiments exactly!

My experiences with a Jesuit missionary where in Northern Ontario where Father Hawkins ministered to all and brought the Catholic Faith to many. Those that were not called to be priests and missionaries, put their Catholic Faith into action as just and moral citizens. Father Hawkins was not a social worker and I don’t believe that the Jesuits, or any priests should be either.

From what I have read of the early Church, social working was a problem that they had to turn over to committees. It got in the way of preaching the gospel.

I pray that the Jesuits get back to their primary work in the fashion of Ignatius.


34 posted on 01/20/2008 8:24:10 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Lib NO MORE!)
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