Conclusion from Peru and Mexico

email from Randall Easter | 25 January 2008 | Randall Easter

[r9etb]

I have discovered that people by nature are the same. Man has a heart that is inclined to selfishness and idolatry.

Indeed, Mr. Easter. Are we to infer that you had no trouble seeing past the log in your own eye?

[Running On Empty]

Opus, you have done a most wonderful thing in these posts.

We Catholics are indebted to you—not only for posting these facts, but also demonstrating that these martyrs walked the talk. Again, thank you!

It’s one thing to make drive-by trips to these countries that are targeted and to come back comfortably to the US and write drive-by e-mails and call that evangelization. It’s another thing for these Catholic missionaries and parish priests to go to these countries and live among the people and accept, as their own lifestyle, the poverty and difficult circumstances of the people they serve—and do this as a life’s work.

Congratulations, sandyeggo, on your brother’s vocation.

[Quix]

Am humbled by your words.

A part of me would still prefer to run and “hide amongst the stuffs.”

LOL.

I’m certainly NOT a “one size fits all” sort of person. Sigh.

To God be all effort and Glory. All else is chaff.

[Quix]

Praise God for the sacrifices of all who truly SEEK HIM AND PUT HIM FIRST, FOREMOST, ALWAYS.

[Running On Empty]

Ping

[Quix]

Now, what such a list has to do with the move of Holy Spirit in Latin America is rather beyond me . . .

unless it’s a kind of thread hijacking.

[Quix]

Sister Margarita Vásquez Sandino, a Colombian nun, was killed on November 11 in Medellin as she was traveling to visit a sick relative. The motive was believed to be robbery.

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This relates to the topic of the thread precisely how?

[Quix]

running into cartoon characters.

= = =

I realize that it’s much easier for all of us to cast issues between RC’s and Protty’s in stark, sterile, unidimensional black/white terms.

Doesn’t match reality much but it does make for more glib word tossings.

I suspect the folks the author encountered would rather bristle at being called cartoon characters.

[Quix]

To me . . .

for someone to

ASSUME, PRETEND, ASCRIBE, DESCRIBE, LABEL

my attitude as despising them

WHEN I DEFINITELY DO NOT

is a kind of ignorance . . . or worse.

Perhaps it is also a kind of projection but only God knows on that score.

[Quix]

Plenty true.

Though Love has many flavors and clothes.

[Clemenza]

Being that I don’t have a dog in this fight, I nevertheless have more respect for those who proselytize in China and the middle east than to get the easy pickings among the Indians in Peru. Remember that the Indians (throughout the Americas) are notorious for mixing religions and/or changing their denomination depending on the latest missionary to show up.

[conservonator]

I suspect the folks the author encountered would rather bristle at being called cartoon characters.

Actually, I think they would be a bit more offended at being called idolaters by a ignorant telepathist.

[OpusatFR]

“To me . . .

for someone to

ASSUME, PRETEND, ASCRIBE, DESCRIBE, LABEL

my attitude as despising them

WHEN I DEFINITELY DO NOT

is a kind of ignorance . . . or worse.

Perhaps it is also a kind of projection but only God knows on that score.”

_______________________________________

You talk about projection?

I didn’t name you, did I.

[Quix]

Interesting . . .

This was certainly likely to be a contentious topic.

So, I came aboard determined to redouble my efforts to be winsome, light hearted, overtly charitable and the like in as much as God enabled and it lies within me to be so with a clear conscience.

I’m still eager and determined to do so.

However, I observe RC reps posting in a manner which is coming across as:

—fiercely angry,

—with a very large chip on shoulders,

—LTTM—lofty to the max as though from the only one true truely truestly truely true position of pontificating truth

—throwing out all manner of seemingly wounded, affronted, harsh diatribe sorts of stuff . . . most of it having absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread.

While perhaps in a stretch and keeping in mind the humanness of us all . . . this is somewhat understandable. But not overly lauditory.

I could go on and on but I’ll return, instead, to my goals for myself hereon.

[Running On Empty]

I looked back over the posts and referenced posts and didn’t see any posts that mentioned anything about YOUR attitude specifically or in particular..

I didn’t see any
ASSUMING
PRETENDING
ASCRIBING
DESCRIBING
or LABELING anything that anything to do with you personally.

So be at peace.

[Quix]

An interesting question.

I suspect that a good percentage of them would easily own outright the idlolatry. I think such groups are more prone to being candid about such things than say a similar collection of folks in New York City or Seattle.

[Quix]

Quite so. Quite admirable.

I also don’t recall my claiming to be a totally brainless idiot.

[Quix]

Haven’t left a state of peace since my morning prayers.

But thanks for the kind exhortation. I’ll keep it in mind today.

[Running On Empty]

I’m glad to hear that, because this thread didn’t start out referring to you and probably won’t end that way, either.

[Quix]

Uhhhhh . . .

How much did the RC edifice responses start out RESPONDING to the topic of the thread in a directly related way?

We have an opportunity on a new thread to act more like grown-ups. I hope that’s workably possible.