Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
The truth simply, plainly stated tends to be sooooooo
upsetting.
Oh, fret, fret, pout, pout . . . flail, flail . . . oh, dear me . . .
Evidently, some of the RC edifice camp have failed to notice . . .
OTHERS OF US
do NOT agree with
1. the rubber history construction on reality
2. the rubber Bibled construction on reality
3. the rubber dictionary construction on reality
4. the rubber logic perspective on reality.
Restating the RC magicsterical construction on reality just doesn’t add anything to our awareness. It certainly doesn’t add anything to the dialogue.
Revisionist histories are the playpens of tyrants.
They aren’t holy.
They aren’t rational.
They aren’t constructive.
They aren’t helpful.
They aren’t Godly.
They aren’t Loving.
They aren’t useful.
HINT.
We don’t believe that to any degree in any way, shape or form.
We find ZERO evidence for it in Scripture and in history.
DEAL WITH IT . . . and, it would be better done WITHOUT pontifical haughty diatribes.
RC’s have not the faintest corner on ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
DEAL WITH IT.
I’m with you, my brother. First time I heard Truth, it riled my flesh. Still does. For no flesh can inherit the kingdom. ta-ta- for now, oops - for eternity!
Peace like a river from the grace of God, poured out on those He chose to save and who repented and cried for mercy, heaping the sins of man on the One Who had no sin and RAISING HIM FROM THE DEAD! so we would know there’s hope of life eternal.
To Him and from Him and for Him are all things. Jesus is the great creator and redeemer of men. The mighty victor over death and sin and spotless Lamb of God. All blessing, and honor, and glory, and power be unto Him for ever and ever.
Interesting request. Some are reportedly working on that.
From my perspective, the RC’s and former RC’s I’ve known who would assert such are all graduated from this life.
But, my Mary Knoll colleague in China asserted that there was a percentage of RC’s who fell into such silliness.
Now wm, leapards do not change their spots.
If you go around expecting fierce RELIGIONISTS who are in love with and worshipping their RELIGION vs God . . . if you go around expecting such folks to . . . be willing to leave the focus of their devotions . . .
why, that would be expecting modern day miracles!
Pentecostals can expect such . . . oh, maybe you’re not a Calvinist?
LOL.
Well done.
Sorry the thread got hijacked so quickly.
Quite sporting of you to carry on.
As though the Maryolatry threads were NOT the opposite????
LOL. GTTM.
Weeeeeeeee are merely presenting truth! LOL.
Once someone, anyone, crosses the line into idolatry, they cease to be Christian, no matter what church or community membership notwithstanding.
Been there plenty of times.
The flesh is always riled by truth it has not become broken on, broken by, broken under . . . to the point of digestion and becoming one with THE TRUTH.
I’m not quite that harsh.
God is merciful to all of us.
I have yet to be a part of any congregation thorougly FREE of idolatry.
Some are just more overt about it.
Indeed - only a proud fool would claim to have tamed his flesh. Of course, John would call him a liar - he who says he is without sin.
As has been said many times - better to broken on the Rock of Christ’s Truth than be crushed underneath it on judgment day.
PRAISE GOD. MAY HE ALONE BE GLORIFIED.
THX.
Even James Arminius didn’t believe Christians could lose their salvation. ‘tis a pitiful savior that can’t securely hold on to his own. But it’s also true that a truly converted person would turn from idolatry, growing more and more aware and broken over his rebellion against almighty God.
More likely that those given to idolatry as Randall described are not in Christ. It is, after all, a narrow gate and broad is the path to destruction. That second one is much easier to find and is the only one man can find without the work of the Holy Spirit.
The closer you get to the third world the more pagan Catholicism becomes. (Or does it appear less pagan the closer you get to middle class America?) You don't need to leave the States, just go into any of the missions built by the conquistadors and you'll see it first hand.A prime example is the Mission San Xavier del Bac on the Tohono O'odham reservation South of Tucson. It is downright morbid inside.
With GOD anything is possible.
Luke 18:27 ..."The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."
Would I do what? To tell you the truth I'm not looking for debate; I was just curious to see what you had in mind. (IOW, I wanted to see if you objected to the Church with other things than the usual: "Mariolotry, 'Call no man Father', 'tradition of man=bad', etc" stuff.) I like to, on occasion, "check my facts" by enquiring about objections to the Church, to ensure I haven't missed anything. If I had, if you had something new, I probably would have continued along such lines, but if not, again, it would've been just a point of curiosity.
We just finished a heated discussion about Mary, we could start there.
I didn't think our discussion (between me and you only) was "heated". It's apparent you show reverence to the Holy Mother (at least that was my impression) and really, that's all Catholics do anyway. Simply because we show reverence in physical ways shouldn't be a sticking point, but apparently it is for some. But again, as far as you and I go, I had no problem with your position on Mary; I doubt any Catholic would either (at least the posts you directed toward me).
So in conclusion, do you have any kind of list of "Biblical objections" to the Church? Again, I'm curious.
OH, I'm sorry I just understood what you meant by this question.
It would have to be very very very strong evidence at this point in my life. I've had numerous people claim to me, "I can show you, from Scripture, how the CC is wrong", and each time I check their facts, I find how there is a perfectly reasonable explanation as to how they are wrong, and the Church is right. I can't tell you how many times I've wasted my time checking up on such claims.
But that doesn't mean I don't remain open; and it doesn't mean I'm not still willing to check a claim. OTHER than the usual pabulum I described above of course.
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