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To: Forest Keeper; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr; ...
It wasn't the raising that accomplished our redemption, it was the dying. The raising was PROOF

But the dying would be pointless without the resurrection; it would mean that death had a hold on Him. By resurrection, death was defeated and His divinity was established (although the Synaptic Gospels suggest otherwise).

The author is wrong in thinking that Christ is merely an ongoing continuation of the paschal lamb sacrifice

Nevertheless, the earliest Church documents show that's how it was understood and practiced, and they were a lot closer to the original faith than your side, FK.

6,830 posted on 08/06/2008 12:32:44 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr; HarleyD; ...
But the dying would be pointless without the resurrection; it would mean that death had a hold on Him.

Yes, and I did not mean to pour any cold water on the resurrection. :) I was saying that the author only quoted HALF of what Paul said and used it to mis-define what justification is.

By resurrection, death was defeated and His divinity was established (although the Synaptic Gospels suggest otherwise).

How are you using "established"? His divinity has never been "not established".

FK: The author is wrong in thinking that Christ is merely an ongoing continuation of the paschal lamb sacrifice.

Nevertheless, the earliest Church documents show that's how it was understood and practiced, and they were a lot closer to the original faith than your side, FK.

Then they were wrong just like the author was wrong. :) The Bible doesn't support them, it supports us. And the Apostles obviously followed their own writings, regardless of whether those who soon followed did not on this issue.

6,831 posted on 08/06/2008 12:05:39 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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