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To: MarkBsnr
When problems like that come up in the Presbyterian church, they're usually dealt with quickly and thoroughly. If fault is found, there's no reassigning the offending minister. The Presbytery revokes his call.

But thankfully, most Presbyterian ministers are married. A celibate priesthood is just asking for problems.

And Hebrews is NOT only discussing animal sacrifices. The writer clearly speaks of CHRIST'S one-time, accomplished sacrifice for His sheep.

No vain repetition required of the one and only sacrifice that takes away sin which we are to remember, not re-enact as if it was not final.

991 posted on 02/01/2008 5:28:48 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***But thankfully, most Presbyterian ministers are married. A celibate priesthood is just asking for problems.***

Then why is abuse among Protestant denominations approximately twice that amongst the Catholics?

***And Hebrews is NOT only discussing animal sacrifices. The writer clearly speaks of CHRIST’S one-time, accomplished sacrifice for His sheep.

No vain repetition required of the one and only sacrifice that takes away sin which we are to remember, not re-enact as if it was not final.***

Not vain. It is required. Jesus specifically wants us to recreate His Last Supper and Passion. I understand that you do not think of Augustine as particularly blessed, but understand, that he participated and approved the Sacrifice of the Mass, as did the Church right from the beginning.


1,003 posted on 02/01/2008 7:20:45 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr
When problems like that come up in the Presbyterian church, they're usually dealt with quickly and thoroughly. If fault is found, there's no reassigning the offending minister. The Presbytery revokes his call.

As a rule if you find abuse in the nonRC churches it's usually heterosexual in nature, whereas in the RCC it's usually homosexual. Whether this is because of the required celibacy, or a subculture that has developed within the clergy I'm not sure. The former probably is a casual factor in the latter.

1,048 posted on 02/02/2008 9:06:31 AM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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