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I can remember many things from the realtively few times I've heard Joyce Meyers do some preaching. I'm puzzled to see her name sullied here.

Can you remember the times she said that Jesus had to go to hell after He died on the cross so that He could defeat Satan there? Meyers says that Jesus' sacrifice wasn't enough to redeem our sins. He instead had to literally go to hell and fight Satan and "snatch the keys to hell from him" in order for our sins to be forgiven. Here are some quotes from her..."And you've got to really glean some things out of the Word of God to really get hold of what He [Jesus] did for you during those three days. Jesus said, 'It is finished.' And He meant the Old Covenant. The job He had to do was just getting started. He really did the job the three days and nights that He was in hell. That's where the job was done."
"He was pronounced guilty on the cross but He paid the price in hell."
"There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell"
...and on, and on, and on I could go...

You can find many resources on Meyers on the net. She is a typical WOF teacher. Here's one source to check on...

Let Us Reason

Thanks for the response. You will be shocked to hear that to me, that's akin to arguing over how many angels fit on the head of a pin, and frankly, I think God would think so, too. The "false prophet" label is like a hologram in that it has many depths and deceptions to look real. I think the "shepherds" who argue among themselves about things that matter NOT in the big scheme of how we further the values of Christ that will save us in the long term, are as vulnerable to false prophecy ans anyone else, though they would deny it probably; they're no different than the rest of us sinners who stumble on our individual paths to God through His tremendous mercy, grace, and love. The common-sense Christian approach to life that I've heard Meyers so eloquent advocate has been consistent every time I've heard her. Sort of like Rush, after nearly 20 years, is consistent and reaffirming in the principles of conservatism. Rick Warren, on the other hand, seems to me to appeal to pride and the desire to be admired by one's fellows through good works -- an "I'm a better Christian than you" kind of thing. I've never gotten that from Meyers AT ALL, and I've gotten that from Warren from the start and seen it confirmed in some of his followers.

That's my take.