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To: tortdog; colorcountry; sitetest
...sounds monotheistic to me

Thomas calls Jesus his God in John 20:28; even the Nephite disciples likewise called Jesus “their Lord and God” (3 Nephi 19:18). D&C says Jesus is God (19:4; 62:1; etc.) Since there’s only one true God in the bible and in the LDS scriptures (for example, Pearl of Great Price says "no God besides me" (1:6), either Jesus is a false god or the one true God. Jesus Christ is a God to Thomas (John 20:28). So Thomas has two gods?

The Christian religion, founded on the life and teachings of Jesus

Tort, you can't have just one "Christianity" if you don't even have one Christ. The apostle Paul said there was "another Jesus." (2 Cor. 11:3-4). There' s multiple "Christianities"--all of them false save one just like there's multiple christs--all of them false save one.

Your never-ending "dictionary" definitions keep assuming that there's only one Jesus. The Moonie "Jesus" is not divine. The Muslim "Jesus" is no "partner" of Allah; he is "just" a prophet. The JW "Jesus" was a man-who-was-Michael-the-archangel-who was-a-lesser-god.

The Mormon "Jesus" upon spirit birth was not unique other than his spirit birth order. He's just one god among thousands or millions of Mormon gods.

He was not THE Son of God from eternity past. He worked his way up to godhood status. He's not an exalted God-become-man, but an exalted man-become-God. He was an elder spirit bro of Lucipher. Had you or your brother been "first" in that pre-existent spirit world birth order, he could have been Christ!!!

This "Jesus" really didn't die for our personal sins or our rebellious nature...cause when we get to Mormon heaven men are subject to punishment for their own sins--not Jesus [LDS second article of faith: "We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression." The flip side of this belief is that Jesus wasn't punished for our sins--men will be...Jesus was simply punished for Adam's sin to release us to "free agency."]

This "Jesus" is foreign to the Bible. The Messiah of the Bible shared the glory with the Father in the beginning (John 17:5). This Jesus is THE Son of God, not just a son of God. And THE Son of God did not consider equality with His Father something he couldn't let go of while becoming a man (see Philippians 2). Phil. 2 makes it clear He was already divine, not just a "wannabe" God like Dear Ole Dad.

This God created all things--including all angels...including even Lucipher (see Heb 1; John 1; Col. 1:16; see even D&C 93:9-10). This Jesus didn't atone for sins by sweating blood in the garden; He did it on Calvary as the Bible proclaims.

This Messiah was born in Bethlehem as the Bible foretold and affirmed post-birth--not like the Mormon "Jesus" of Mormon Scriptures born in Jerusalem. This Messiah is to be known directly, along with THE ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3) as the basis of eternal life...unlike LDS apostles like McConkie who taught BYU students NOT to seek a special relationship with Jesus.

This Jesus is to be prayed directly to--despite the suppression of direct prayer to Jesus by LDS general authorities--in direct betrayal of what Book of Mormon characters repeatedly supposedly did in 3 Nephi 19:16-30...all with the Mormon "Jesus" repeatedly approving them doing so!

This Jesus is to be worship directly like Heavenly Father...because Heavenly Father beckoned us to do so...He beckoned the angels to do so (Heb. 1:6) as well as the wise men when He was a baby. (Even the BoM says to do so! (3 Nephi 11:17; 17:10; 4 Nephi 4:37).

I would suggest that LDSaints cut out their apostles' nonsense--telling folks to just give Jesus "applause" worship--(thanksgiving and reverential awe). It's time for LDSaints to take a closer look at their own Book of Mormon:

And now behold, I say unto you that the right way is to believe in Christ, and deny him not; and Christ is the Holy One of Israel; wherefore ye must bow down before him, and worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul; and if ye do this ye shall in nowise be cast out. (2 Nephi 25:29)

Let us worship Jesus of the Bible with all our might, mind, and strength, and our whole soul--giving all restrained reservations cast upon us by mere religious men usurping God's authoritative Word!

171 posted on 02/13/2008 10:09:45 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Godzilla; Colofornian

Thought it might be good to ping you to this most cogent post. ... And thank you, Colofornain, for all you are doing to represent My Lord where heresies are being promoted.


172 posted on 02/13/2008 10:47:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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