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To: Boiler Plate

no kidding.

FR is overrun with folks who are prejudiced against Southern Christian Conservatives.

The word bigot like racist is overplayed by folks to lazy to argue their point intellectually.

They are so used to folks rolling over.

I’m Southern Baptist. We were mostly Fred here and Romney after that.

We don’t accept Mormonism entirely probably but that doesn’t make us bigots or incapable of supporting one for POTUS.

Had Romney been true blue Mormon all along he probably would have fared better but he was low Sodium Salt Lake.

Huckabee whooped him because we were fractured with too many candidates, strange early primary rules which favored moderates and independents...even Dems, and Romney simply didn’t have the social conservatism credentials even though in my view Romney was no less conservative overall.

Huckabee gave folks a here a chance to vent their natural snottiness towards social conservatism in my region and the Mormon talk came later.

btw....did I ever see a straight answer....are Jesus and Satan spiritual brothers in any LDS writings?

asking that question did not make Huckabee a bigot.


86 posted on 02/10/2008 6:02:51 PM PST by wardaddy (Political Correctness is to Western Culture what the Aids virus is to the cake community)
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To: wardaddy

“Huckabee whooped him because we were fractured with too many candidates, strange early primary rules which favored moderates and independents...even Dems, and Romney simply didn’t have the social conservatism credentials even though in my view Romney was no less conservative overall.”

You mean he “whooped” him in the southern states, right? Because Romney had a significant # more votes than The Huckster and after dropping out, still has more delegates.


108 posted on 02/10/2008 6:14:48 PM PST by Minn. 4 Bush
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To: wardaddy
btw....did I ever see a straight answer....are Jesus and Satan spiritual brothers in any LDS writings?

asking that question did not make Huckabee a bigot.


Yes it does.
Suppose a person asks an Evangelical “How could God punish man for Adam stealing an apple and then bless man for someone killing Jesus?”
The question is based in truths and can be answered, but it is asked in such a way to make something important appear ridiculous. That is why it was bigotry.
150 posted on 02/10/2008 6:51:52 PM PST by broncobilly
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To: wardaddy

Everyone has prejudices. Usually the worst ones are they ones who call others bigots.


200 posted on 02/10/2008 7:28:39 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: wardaddy

You will never get a straight answer on that one.


221 posted on 02/10/2008 7:41:15 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: wardaddy
btw....did I ever see a straight answer....are Jesus and Satan spiritual brothers in any LDS writings?

Short Answer: Yes.

LDS scripture (which includes the bible) teaches that we are all spirit children of our Heavenly Father (God), this includes Jesus Christ and Satan, which makes them spirit brothers.

Longer Answer:

Same as above + LDS scriptures also talks about the great plan of salvation including the notion that life on earth is a test to see if we will choose good or choose evil of our own free will. The LDS teach of a pre-earthly conflict between two groups championing different philosophies. One group led by Satan, pushed the idea of coercion, IE, force everyone to be good and not a single soul will be lost during the testing on earth, and by the way, since it was my great idea, give me (Satan) all the glory. The larger group led by Jesus Christ, championed the idea of free will, that in order for the test on earth to be fair, and thus meaningful, each person had to choose good or evil for himself/herself and let the glory for the accomplishments go to God to whom it belongs. Jesus then volunteered to come to earth and sacrifice himself to make it possible for all of us who choose to to wash away our sins thru the atonement by repentance. God picked Jesus's plan which led to a war in heaven where 1/3 of God's spirit children (IE Satan's group) were cast out for their pride/hubris and have been tempting us here on earth ever since.

Positive Spin: Mormon's are strong believers in freedom because of their religious teachings.

Neutral Spin: Mormon's plan of salvation (freewill/faith/repentance/atonement/works/obedience) is very different from other christian churches (faith/repentance/atonement) because of their belief in additional scripture besides the bible

Negative Spin: Mormon's teach Jesus and Satan are brothers

330 posted on 02/10/2008 9:16:08 PM PST by Valiant
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