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Before you convert to Roman Catholicism... (Top Ten List)
http://www.reformationtheology.com/2007/08/before_you_convert_to_roman_ca.php ^ | 7 Aug 2007 | James White

Posted on 04/04/2008 11:01:22 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: fortheDeclaration

Nope. You have failed.

Sorry.


741 posted on 04/09/2008 3:13:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: OLD REGGIE

“The Eucharist began. My mind was on trying to keep up with all the congregational activity; distracted from what was happening before me. Suddenly the Presence of God fell upon that place in power like I had never known before. The room was flooded with light and his embrace and all I could do was sit and bask in him.”

—Patty Bonds, sister of James White and convert to Catholicism, on attending her first Catholic Mass.


742 posted on 04/09/2008 3:13:50 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama is a totalitarian nutcase.)
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To: Petronski
Confusion is irrelevant on that ground. As long as you have your “ELECT” vanity plates on your car, you’re gold!

Damn! The neighbor already stole the idea, and the computer geek down the way already grabbed 3L3CT.

And I guess that makes my "Do unto others" bumpersticker a REALLY BAD idea, too?

743 posted on 04/09/2008 3:14:19 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Forget the Ten Commandments AND the Golden Rule: works matter not.

If you’re elect, doesn’t matter. If your reprobate, it sure as Hell doesn’t matter.

Life is the sick kabuki dance of a sadistic god fashioned in Calvin’s image.


744 posted on 04/09/2008 3:16:39 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: r9etb
[You need to get into the true church and that means getting into the Body of Christ by faith without works.]

Are you asking me to do something, lest I burn in hell? That would classify as a "work," would it not? Ooops.

No, doing something is not classified as a work, it is simply accepting the free gift of salvation, which is not a work, since you didn't earn it or pay for it.

When someone give you a gift and you accept it do you consider that a 'work'?

A little Bible reading would clear up your confusion (Rom.11:6).

OOOPs, there I go bringing in that Bible again!

745 posted on 04/09/2008 3:17:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Petronski
Nope. You have failed.

Wow, that was a brillant response!

Sorry.

Oh, you will be very sorry at the Great White Throne Judgement when you explain why you rejected the free grace of God for the works of men.

I am sorry for you.

746 posted on 04/09/2008 3:19:58 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Ooops, there you go snatching a verse from context.


747 posted on 04/09/2008 3:20:18 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You DO make yourself a god. If I don’t do what YOU say, I’m going to hell.

Cauvin was quite the little tyrant.


748 posted on 04/09/2008 3:21:34 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, doing something is not classified as a work, it is simply accepting the free gift of salvation, which is not a work, since you didn't earn it or pay for it.

And somehow it's not possible to do that in a Catholic Church? Hmmmmm. You're perhaps suggesting that it's possible for us to negate God's "election" of us by our own actions? Double Hmmmmmm.

Count me out of your little game, pal. You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. (John 5:39-40).

749 posted on 04/09/2008 3:22:15 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: fortheDeclaration
...you explain why you rejected the free grace of God for the works of men.

By the way, you're bearing false witness against me.

750 posted on 04/09/2008 3:22:36 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Petronski
[...the Great Throne Judgement...]

Whom do you imagine sits there? An autocratic French lawyer? An anti-Semitic German monk?

Oh, I know who will be sitting there and it is made very clear in Rev.20.

You will won't be looking into the eyes of the 'baby Jesus' sitting in the arms of Mary with a crown around her head, it will be the King of Kings and Lord and Lords.

751 posted on 04/09/2008 3:23:11 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
You will won't be looking into the eyes of the 'baby Jesus'

You should make up your mind.

752 posted on 04/09/2008 3:24:01 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Petronski
By the way, you're bearing false witness against me.

No, you have admitted you are a Roman Catholic and Roman Catholicism rejects the doctrine of salvation by faith without works.

No false witness at all.

753 posted on 04/09/2008 3:26:22 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: MarkBsnr
My shortly means during the time of Paul.

Let's continue with our "simple" scenario.

Please show me where, during the time of Paul, "Tradition meant anything but prior tradition and "current" ("taught by us").

IOW show me where Paul even hinted that the Church would discover "revealed truth" at a later time, even many hundreds of years later.

754 posted on 04/09/2008 3:26:51 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You say I rejected the free grace of God. That’s false.


755 posted on 04/09/2008 3:27:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Petronski
[You will won't be looking into the eyes of the 'baby Jesus']

You should make up your mind.

No, because Jesus isn't a baby anymore, as you like to potray Him in your statues honoring Mary.

Do all Roman Catholics have reading problems or is it only the ones on these threads?

756 posted on 04/09/2008 3:28:25 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
...you have admitted you are a Roman Catholic...

Admitted?

My my. You have made quite the Freudian slip there.

757 posted on 04/09/2008 3:28:49 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Do all Roman Catholics have reading problems or is it only the ones on these threads?

You said I "will won't" be doing something. Which is it?

758 posted on 04/09/2008 3:29:33 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Petronski
You say I rejected the free grace of God. That’s false.

I said you have rejected the free grace of God without works and that isn't false.

The two don't go together (Rom.11:6)

759 posted on 04/09/2008 3:31:05 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: OLD REGGIE
...("taught by us")...

The 'us' is Peter, the apostles and the apostolic succession from Peter I to Benedict XVI.

760 posted on 04/09/2008 3:31:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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