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Closet Catholic In the White House? (you be the judge)
Creative Minority Reports ^ | April 15, 2008 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 04/15/2008 8:07:25 AM PDT by NYer

Daniel Burke at the Washington Post thinks that President Bush might be pulling a Tony Blair. Burke tells of the Catholic based culture that rules the west wing and some other lingering suspicions.

Shortly after Pope Benedict XVI's election in 2005, President Bush met with a small circle of advisers in the Oval Office. As some mentioned their own religious backgrounds, the president remarked that he had read one of the new pontiff's books about faith and culture in Western Europe.

Save for one other soul, Bush was the only non-Catholic in the room. But his interest in the pope's writings was no surprise to those around him. As the White House prepares to welcome Benedict on Tuesday, many in Bush's inner circle expect the pontiff to find a kindred spirit in the president. Because if Bill Clinton can be called America's first black president, some say, then George W. Bush could well be the nation's first Catholic president.

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"I don't think there's any question about it," says Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania and a devout Catholic, who was the first to give Bush the "Catholic president" label. "He's certainly much more Catholic than Kennedy."
While this concept of a Catholic run White House may be humorous to some, Fr. Richard John Neuhaus says that it is not so far fetched.
Bush has also placed Catholics in prominent roles in the federal government and relied on Catholic tradition to make a public case for everything from his faith-based initiative to antiabortion legislation. He has wedded Catholic intellectualism with evangelical political savvy to forge a powerful electoral coalition.

"There is an awareness in the White House that the rich Catholic intellectual tradition is a resource for making the links between Christian faith, religiously grounded moral judgments and public policy," says Richard John Neuhaus, a Catholic priest and editor of the journal First Things who has tutored Bush in the church's social doctrines for nearly a decade.
Finally, Burke hints that some close to the President might not be suprised if he pulled a Tony Blair one day by converting after leaving office.
Moreover, people close to Bush say that he has professed a not-so-secret admiration for the church's discipline and is personally attracted to the breadth and unity of its teachings. A New York priest who has befriended the president said that Bush respects the way Catholicism starts at the foundation -- with the notion that the papacy is willed by God and that the pope is Peter's successor. "I think what fascinates him about Catholicism is its historical plausibility," says this priest. "He does appreciate the systematic theology of the church, its intellectual cogency and stability." The priest also says that Bush "is not unaware of how evangelicalism -- by comparison with Catholicism -- may seem more limited both theologically and historically."

Former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson, another evangelical with an affinity for Catholic teaching, says that the key to understanding Bush's domestic policy is to view it through the lens of Rome. Others go a step further.

Paul Weyrich, an architect of the religious right, detects in Bush shades of former British prime minister Tony Blair, who converted to Catholicism last year. "I think he is a secret believer," Weyrich says of Bush. Similarly, John DiIulio, Bush's first director of faith-based initiatives, has called the president a "closet Catholic." And he was only half-kidding.
Color me skeptical, but I don't think so.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bush; catholic; pope; whitehouse
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To: NYer
I believe that was on election night. Bush was seen sitting next to a table set
with a small reproduction of the Orthodox Madonna and Child similar to this:


41 posted on 04/15/2008 9:05:05 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: NYer; AnAmericanMother
Anyone recall the photo of President Bush sitting next to a table on which was a religious icon?


42 posted on 04/15/2008 9:06:06 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: NYer

Bush has always shown great respect for conservative religious leaders, particularly the Rev’d Dr. Billy Graham and Pope John Paul II. Pope Benedict XVI would be no different. This stems from Bush’s stong personal relationship with the Risen Lord and his strong understanding of good vs evil.


43 posted on 04/15/2008 9:09:44 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: Beloved Levinite; Admin Moderator

Isn’t the “secret” Jesuit/Knights of Malta(they’re the same thing) oath is banned from the religion forum for being thoroughly debunked?


44 posted on 04/15/2008 9:10:06 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: muawiyah

Yeah, RR’s father was Catholic, his mother, a Protestant, raised him same. His brother Moon was raised Catholic.

There are churches which celebrate services in Aramaic—the language of Christ.


45 posted on 04/15/2008 9:13:03 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: NYer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2000125/posts?page=3#3

EWTN - World Over Live - 4/11/08 - Raymond Arroyo Interviews President Bush (excerpts here)
Friday, April 11, 2008 1:05:26 PM · 3 of 9
Notwithstanding to NYer

W seems to be Catholic at his core. Certainly moreso than Tony Blair.

Perhaps W will have announce his intellectual conversion once he leaves office.

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46 posted on 04/15/2008 9:17:51 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
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To: lastchance

awesome post, had me chuckling along....

man, have i heard all those over and over and over...


47 posted on 04/15/2008 9:21:25 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: DarkSavant

I have no knowledge of that. SO if that oath is fake, show me the real one.


48 posted on 04/15/2008 9:22:19 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: muawiyah

im not surprised about those and their thoughts of icons and statues, but their continual lies, misinformation and downright ignorance over the true meaning....and the strawmen they build with that ‘knowledge’....


49 posted on 04/15/2008 9:23:15 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Andyman

“The Knights in the White House I got from my K of C State Deputy. He said 30 Knights (without swords) have been training for 2 months in preparation for the event. It was President Bush who made the request. EWTN will be carrying the event.”

Wonderful.


50 posted on 04/15/2008 9:25:43 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: tioga

Did I “offend” you and create an “environment of fear”? :)


51 posted on 04/15/2008 9:28:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Tax-chick

Oh gosh how could I have left that one out.


52 posted on 04/15/2008 9:29:24 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance
Ding....Ding.....Ding.....Ding....Ding

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

This is the single most offensive post I have ever read on Free Republic.

53 posted on 04/15/2008 9:29:36 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: lastchance

LOL!
You just about covered it, but you left out one thing:

The Knights of Columbus put out contracts on people who give them trouble.

(I actually had a protestant man tell me one time the Knights were trying to kill him!)


54 posted on 04/15/2008 9:30:41 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Andyman

Andy are you a K of C? I’d like to find an official copy of your oath. Can you provide it here?


55 posted on 04/15/2008 9:32:05 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: Tax-chick
I think you forgot a few. Doesn’t the Pope chew AA batteries and shoot lightning bolts out of his fillings, which were stolen from concentration camp victims when he was in the SS?

ROFL!! STOP! I'm choking on my salad.

56 posted on 04/15/2008 9:43:56 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Beloved Levinite
I'm not sure which "secret oath" you're talking about, but if it's the infamous Knights of Columbus "secret oath" quoted in the Congressional Record around the year 1915, you should know:

  1. It was read into the Congressional Record for the purpose of denouncing it as a forgery, a context which Catholic-haters invariably forget to mention
  2. It's a forgery
  3. Because it's a forgery, it's banned on the FR Religion Forum
Real Christians don't willingly believe lies about other people. Even if you don't consider us to be Christians (you're wrong), Catholics are still "other people".
57 posted on 04/15/2008 9:46:21 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Beloved Levinite; Religion Moderator

Secret oaths ping.


58 posted on 04/15/2008 9:48:21 AM PDT by Petronski (Bitterly clinging to religion and guns here in Penna.)
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To: lastchance

Uh-oh! Did I reveal one from 4th Degree Knights of Columbus secret list? They’ll never let me wash dishes at a fish fry again!


59 posted on 04/15/2008 9:48:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's hard to be stressed out over your spouse while you're in a bathtub drinking wine together.")
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To: AppyPappy; tioga

yeah your remarks are real sidesplitters. insulting a fellow freeper’s religion is about as low as you can get. i sincerely cannot fathom why you get off on it so, and how you think it is something God would condone.


60 posted on 04/15/2008 9:49:57 AM PDT by xsmommy
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