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To: dartuser
"I have an immediate distrust for a former fellow Baptist who would essentially formulate his theological understanding of basic doctrine (especially in the area of ecclesiology) by translating from the church fathers instead of the Bible."

Which is typical of people who hold "sola scriptura" as their mantra. The only problem is that the "scriptura" can be interpreted many different ways (witness the many different understandings of same among different Protestant groups).

Reading the Church Fathers is a means of determining WHICH of the multiple possible interpretations best represents the understanding of those Christians who were closest in time to the actual teachings of the Apostles, as they are the ones most likely to "have got it right".

"Sola Scriptura" is "sola stupid".

23 posted on 05/02/2008 5:54:30 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog; dartuser

“he only problem is that the “scriptura” can be interpreted many different ways (witness the many different understandings of same among different Protestant groups).”

But, but but...

Can’t the Church Fathers ALSO be interpreted many different ways???

Or did God supposedly give the Church Fathers the ability to write more clearly than the Apostles????

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“”Sola Scriptura” is “sola stupid”.”

Great argument!

But tell it to St. Paul. He’ll disagree with you.


52 posted on 05/02/2008 12:16:45 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Wonder Warthog

What makes the Church fathers interpretation better than anyone else who studies it? Answer: it’s not.


68 posted on 05/02/2008 2:01:28 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Wonder Warthog
as they are the ones most likely to "have got it right".

100% pure assumption on your part. It totally guides all your exegesis to your own detriment. How do you know that ANY of the church fathers got ANYTHING correct? You must assume it.

The text says "when He comes He will guide you into all truth." Unfortunately for us, Jesus was talking to the apostles, not us grunts. He said nothing like "When He comes, He will guide you into all truth, and any disciples that come after you will have inspired commentary so you will know the interpretation of all that I have said to you."

222 posted on 05/15/2008 1:55:46 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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