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To: annalex; Boagenes

“First, if Christ is there in the Eucharist and you know it”

Christ was sacrificed ONCE, not every Sunday. The Mass is no real sacrifice. Communion is a “rememberance” - not the real thing.

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“Apocalypse 12 describes Mary in her body as a queen in heaven. “

Revelations 12 is not Mary. The Revelations 12 woman had pain in child birth - something Mary didn’t have according to the RCC.


53 posted on 05/02/2008 12:26:21 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

***The Revelations 12 woman had pain in child birth - something Mary didn’t have according to the RCC.***

Can you show us where the Catholic Church says this?


61 posted on 05/02/2008 1:27:10 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Boagenes

The Eucharist is not a new sacrifice of Christ, but rather the same sacrifice of the Cross given us to partake of. The Catholic Church does not teach multiple sacrifices.

The woman in Apocalypse 12 is identified expressly as mother of Christ, and her motherhood is described in graphic, even physiological terms. It is of course true that Israel is a type of Mary, — or if you wish, that Mary is the high point and consummation of Judaism, so the connection to Israel can be made typologically. Likewise, given the hightened symbolism of the book, it is possible that the labor pains symbolize the groaning of the creation in Christ’s Advent.

The Catholic Church does not teach dogmatically that Mary was spared labor pains. It is a popular opinion, but it is not dogmatic, perhaps precisely because of the counterindication in Apocalypse 12.


63 posted on 05/02/2008 1:35:18 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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