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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The Holy Spirit did not write the Bible. Do not misquote me yet again. The Bible was written and assembled under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit

Do you believe that Pope Benedict XVI is the antiChrist?


441 posted on 05/03/2008 6:34:29 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski
Dumbing down the Gospel tends to make it more attractive.

IICor. 11:3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

It is not complicated and never has been.

442 posted on 05/03/2008 6:35:16 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: MarkBsnr
Do you believe that Pope Benedict XVI is the antiChrist?

For the eighth time, I do not see where Ratzinger gives any evidence that would dispel any words of the WCF.

He does, after all, call himself "another Christ" and "infallible," which clearly reveals him to be on the wrong road leading men in the wrong direction, to their peril and his everlasting shame.

443 posted on 05/03/2008 6:35:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The latter part of his post could just as easily have been included in the excerpt and it wouldn't have changed the meaning at all.

Yet you didn't include it. Sour grapes, anyone?

But that's how Catholic apologists work -- they grasp onto something insignificant and blow it out of all proportion because they have no answer for what's really being discussed.

No answer?

Like I said...Black Knight.

444 posted on 05/03/2008 6:37:07 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: MarkBsnr

See one of the eight times I’ve answered that question.


445 posted on 05/03/2008 6:38:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

You might want to.....I heard the anti-christ will rise out of old Rome! (sarc- that’s for the one who said we are too dumb to know sarcasm when we see it)


446 posted on 05/03/2008 6:39:03 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: HarleyD

Harley;

Wiki is not a reliable guide. I am merely asking the good Dr. E. to clarify some ambivalent statement that she previously made.


447 posted on 05/03/2008 6:39:22 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski
Machen never made the deadly error of calling himself "another Christ" nor thinking he was "infallible."

Thankfully, there have been only a handful of pretenders who claimed both those lies.

448 posted on 05/03/2008 6:40:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.
Mar 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


449 posted on 05/03/2008 6:40:51 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***See one of the eight times I’ve answered that question.***

You haven’t answered it at all. Not once. Just in case you’ve forgotten, here it is again:

Do you believe that Pope Benedict XVI is the antiChrist?


450 posted on 05/03/2008 6:41:25 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Ah. The negation of the Gospels by the Reformers. Matt 22:

One should understand the complete harmony of the gospel. The lawyer was trying to justify himself. Please consider a more complete companion verse:

Now, if the lawyer (or anyone) can tell me they have loved God with all their heart, soul and mind AND their neighbor then I will be impressed and, as our Lord stated, they shall inherit eternal life. However, if not then they have a problem. Obviously the lawyer must have felt a bit uncomfortable. Do you believe that you have been able to keep these commandments?

I think that a rereading of the Gospels might be in order.

Yes, indeed.

451 posted on 05/03/2008 6:43:45 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: swmobuffalo

***Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.
Mar 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.***

None of these indicate sola scriptura. They indicate that scripture is important - most of them refer to the OT, but nothing to the extent that Scripture alone is important.


452 posted on 05/03/2008 6:44:49 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; HarleyD; swmobuffalo; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; Augustinian monk; ...
Or just another casual racist remark?

Sure looks like it.

Maybe the truth is getting a little too close to home.

453 posted on 05/03/2008 6:45:32 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: MarkBsnr; All
Here is your entire remark...

"Sure.

They are recruiting from the disaffected Protestants in North America and they are recruiting from the savages in Africa and in Southeast Asia, as are we. But, as in the 7th Century, the militant recruiting appears to be outstripping us.

The Reformed on the other hand, appear to be fading."

Who are you referring to when you write "they are recruiting from the savages in Africa?"

Who are "the savages of Africa?"

454 posted on 05/03/2008 6:46:06 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: HarleyD

Very much a reread.

The entire message of Jesus was love and mercy and charity; totally unlike the message of the OT.

The OT was fear and trepidation and worship from afar.

I never said that I could keep these commandments; it is the God of Love and Mercy that I depend on to forgive my sins.


455 posted on 05/03/2008 6:48:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The Holy Spirit did not write the Bible.

ROTFLOL! You didn't even wait until tomorrow to contradict yourself again.

456 posted on 05/03/2008 6:48:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr

“None of these indicate sola scriptura.”

Rather dangerous to deny the word of God, is it not?


457 posted on 05/03/2008 6:49:25 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: papertyger
Yet you didn't include it.

lol. Do you excerpt from people's remarks or do you post every word they write?

As I said, including the extra words would in no way change what was meant nor written.

458 posted on 05/03/2008 6:50:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
According to Scripture, worshiping the Eucharist is idolatry and a complete misunderstanding of the Lord's Supper and Christ's perfect, one-time, accomplished sacrifice on the cross for all the sins of His flock.

No, according to your interpretation of Scripture. To quote Luther quoting Scripture, That IS my Body. In any case, in worshiping the Eucharist we are worshiping the present Christ, not a symbol of our faith.

459 posted on 05/03/2008 6:51:21 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***They are recruiting from the disaffected Protestants in North America and they are recruiting from the savages in Africa and in Southeast Asia, as are we. But, as in the 7th Century, the militant recruiting appears to be outstripping us. ***

My post.

Since you are unable to discern anything other than to deflect attention from the question that you keep refusing to answer:

Do you believe that Pope Benedict XVI is the antiChrist?

I will expand upon it. Savages. Definition: Of or pertaining to the forest; remote from human abodes and cultivation; in a state of nature; wild; as, a savage wilderness.

We are going in and bringing civilization to the uncivilized. Whole Catholic orders are bringing that civilization to millions who are living as humans did tens of thousands of years ago. When we bring civilization to them, we bring the faith as well.

A not totally unexpected twist once again upon my words and intents.

Do you believe that Pope Benedict XVI is the antiChrist?


460 posted on 05/03/2008 6:54:25 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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