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Hello, I just created an account. I was reading what many of you had to say and found it intriguing. I love talking about Mormon apologetics. I am a Mormon and am proud to be such. However I disagree with some people of my faith’s views. Many in my religion when reading the article just posted dismiss it as “Adam=God theory is not correct.” I agree with them on this point.

I profess myself a Christian. But that depends on how you define the term Christian. I believe that Jesus was and is the son of God and as such is the only one that could lay down his life and take it up again. He died spiritually for me in Gethsemane and he died physically on Calvary’s hill, and in both instances was raised up again. Yes “We Believe the bible to be the word of god, so far as it is translated correctly. We also Believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God”
(And speaking on the cult thing...I don’t consider my self a cutest...but what definition of “cult” are you using. That term has so many definitions I think it has lost all meaning.)

However I do not believe in the creeds. I understand many attacks against my religion. And I find it sad that other members of my faith say “Why are you attacking us when we don’t attack you” kind of silly. We do profess to be the only true church of God. Even in our Pearl of Great Price Joseph Smith History 1:19

(forgive me if there are slight mistakes) “I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of Godliness, but they deny the bower thereof” (King James edition Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants can all be found at the scripture link at www.lds.org )

To me that is an attack on other faiths. I like what one person on this form said about Brigham, that he was a bold man. And the message of the LDS faith is a bold one.

I like the humor that many of you posses on this form because reading the posts has been very amusing. Yes I have read and watched everything that has been posted (with the exception of the video that was posted on the garment ... I have a feeling I don’t want to see what it is.) now with that being said (sorry for “beating around the bush”) I will talk about how I feel about this address given by Brigham.

It is true. Every word of it. There is nothing in it that I would deny. However I do not speculate as to what certain titles mean. That is that I believe that Adam is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. (sorry bout the caps :-) its just how it is ) explanation...

“He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken-He is our FATHER and our GOD” ... however he is not Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael. He is just Michael. I have not ever found any sermon about Elohim being Adam. But as a Mormon I believe that as god once was man is and as god is now man may become.

By the way I would like to address the reason why this speech was given. “It is in regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views.” in this Brigham uses his humor to “prove” that Jesus is not the son of the Holy Ghost but the son of God. To explain he has to touch upon the nature of Adam. I have a testimony that Jesus is the only begotten son of god in the flesh... yet I believe that Adam is the literal physical son of God...but not in the flesh. He was in celestial glory when he came to this earth and yet fell. (This is in my opinion why Job glorifies Christ as his redeemer. Even though he is perfect he is fallen physically)
as to eve being one of his wives I think Brigham is saying that he very well may have more than one wife. (men and women can be sealed for eternity and not earth life, or both, or just earth) but the details are kinda fuzzy and if you want to talk about it you should post a discussion on a polygamy form (BTW it is actually polygyny)

And to clarify that he is “the only God with whom WE have to do” I believe that there will be a huge priesthood council held at Adam-ondi-Ahman and there those that hold priesthood keys will be held accountable as stewards to Adam. I believe that Adam is a God of this world. Even as much as if you are exalted you shall be a God of this world. (I say that as in Eloheim is a God of Kolob)
Hope that clarifies things. You can still believe what you will. If you think that Brigham is really saying that Michael is Eloheim go for it. But that is not what I believe he is professing. Nor would he ever.