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To: MarDav

You have put together some fine Gospel. Here’s the problem. We were talking about the Scripture that Jesus was referring to. All of it was in the OT.

Nice try though. I have been conversing with another poster who has a rather loose grasp on the concept of time and timelines.

***Joh 5:39 Search the Scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.***

Why don’t you finish the verse and put it into context?

John 5:
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Moreover, the Father who sent me has testified on my behalf. But you have never heard his voice nor seen his form,
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and you do not have his word remaining in you, because you do not believe in the one whom he has sent.
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You search 14 the scriptures, because you think you have eternal life through them; even they testify on my behalf.
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But you do not want to come to me to have life.
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“I do not accept human praise; 15
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moreover, I know that you do not have the love of God in you.
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I came in the name of my Father, but you do not accept me; yet if another comes in his own name, you will accept him.
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How can you believe, when you accept praise from one another and do not seek the praise that comes from the only God?

This is why you guys so badly need the Magisterium.


6,319 posted on 06/16/2008 5:41:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Why don’t you finish the verse and put it into context?

John 5:
37
Moreover, the Father who sent me has testified on my behalf. But you have never heard his voice nor seen his form,

I have indeed heard His voice...through His word...”My sheep hear my voice and they follow me.” I follow Him, imperfectly, yes. But, I follow Him...

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and you do not have his word remaining in you, because you do not believe in the one whom he has sent.

I do believe He is the Christ, the Son of the Living God. He is the promised One of God, the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. I read His word daily, and “work out my own salvation with fear and trembling,” taking heed according unto His word (that I, though not a young man, might cleanse my ways...)

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You search 14 the scriptures, because you think you have eternal life through them; even they testify on my behalf.

I do search the scriptures, like the noble Bereans searched the scriptures, comparing scripture with scripture. I do find them all to be about the Lord Jesus Christ, from beginning to end. God’s word is a vast, measureless trove of treasure.

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But you do not want to come to me to have life.

To whom (else) shall I go, Lord, it is you who have the words of life. I have indeed come to Christ for salvation, convicted of my sin and prompted by His Spirit to repent and plead for mercy and forgiveness based on the atoning work of Christ Jesus’ blood that was shed on the cross of Calvary alone. In April, 1986 I became a born-again believer in my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

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“I do not accept human praise; 15

I know, Lord, it brings little honor to you to hear my lowly voice proclaim your goodness and lovingkindness to this lowly sinner. Your true honor comes from Your Father. But, nonetheless I am glad that you have put a new song in this sinner’s heart and on his lips, even praise to our god.

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moreover, I know that you do not have the love of God in you.

All I can say, along with Peter is, “Yes, Lord. You know all things. You know that I like (philios) you, Lord.”

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I came in the name of my Father, but you do not accept me; yet if another comes in his own name, you will accept him.

There was indeed a time when I rejected you, Lord. I wanted to live my own life, my own way, for my own ends. But now, now that I have been accepted in the beloved (indeed, I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine!) now I can say with all the certitude of (again) Peter, “Though all forsake you, Lord, I shall never forsake you.” (How many, many times have I had to pray forgiveness for that one!)

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How can you believe, when you accept praise from one another and do not seek the praise that comes from the only God?

Oh, Lord, I thank you for being patient with my prideful, resistant heart. And, yes, there have been times when I did indeed prefer the praise of men, rather than your praise. I thank you that you are a patient Father, and, as such, have continued to wait until my foolish, foolish heart will at last shrug off every last bit of delight in the trappings of this life that seduce and delude me into thinking that there could ever be anything greater than knowing you and being like your obedient Son.

This is why you guys so badly need the Magisterium.

No. This is why I need the Lord!


6,337 posted on 06/16/2008 6:31:54 PM PDT by MarDav
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