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To: papertyger

You, and a few others may have misunderstood my intent. By saying, “There is no going outside of Scripture when God, by His Spirit, inspires the human authors of His Scripture to pen His word,” I am simply stating that it is then that those writers cease to become conduits of their own thoughts and are now indicating the thoughts of God. The scripture verses I cited were to indicate that this is what God does. He communicates His thoughts. He has used human instruments to do so.

When you speak of an institution acting in this same capacity, I would say, “With God, all things are possible.” But, that would not be enough to “give you yours.” That institution’s members would have to be operating in such a way as to be fully inspired by the Holy Spirit of God and acting in one voice in such a way as to be of one mind in matters concerning God’s revelation of Himself. They would, likewise, have to be completely consistent with God’s character, nature, person, work, as well as completely in line with every jot and tittle of His previously revealed word.


6,381 posted on 06/17/2008 4:40:27 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: MarDav
I am simply stating that it is then that those writers cease to become conduits of their own thoughts and are now indicating the thoughts of God.

That's all well and good, except you have no biblical texts to validate your rather detailed claims. The verses you cite are far more ambiguous than your usage would indicate.

But, that would not be enough to "give you yours."

Sure it would. Exceptions to every one of your self-imposed institutional "qualifiers" CAN be demonstrated from Scripture.

For example no one can deny God revealed much through David, yet he could hardly be said to be "completely consistent with God’s character, nature, person, work, as well as completely in line with every jot and tittle of His previously revealed word."

6,387 posted on 06/17/2008 5:38:53 AM PDT by papertyger (What Would Jesus Do? ... Remember "freak out and turn over tables," is a valid option ;o)
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To: MarDav
When you speak of an institution acting in this same capacity, I would say, “With God, all things are possible.” But, that would not be enough to “give you yours.” That institution’s members would have to be operating in such a way as to be fully inspired by the Holy Spirit of God and acting in one voice in such a way as to be of one mind in matters concerning God’s revelation of Himself. They would, likewise, have to be completely consistent with God’s character, nature, person, work, as well as completely in line with every jot and tittle of His previously revealed word.

Sez who? ;-)

Seriously: Every member of a hospital has to be well before the hospital can practice medicine effectively? Where do you find that all the Christians at the time of the council of Jerusalem were acting in such a way that those in the council were right to think of themselves as inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Did God judge Israel through Samson? Were Jeremiah and Isaiah ANd their religious communities "Operating in such a way as to be fully inspired"? Isn't this works righteousness in the final analysis?

I don't see that this notion has its basis in Scripture. To judge by what the Bible tells us happened in the early Church there was disagreement and misunderstanding of God's will regarding Gentiles, and yet God spoke through the Council, and did so so clearly that the Council claimed that what was said "Seemed good to the Holy Spirit."

6,392 posted on 06/17/2008 5:54:47 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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