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To: markomalley

I’ve done a bit of looking, and I’ll expand on my comment slightly. Please understand, I’m not trying to bait you with these comments, but to answer a question you asked about something that happened over a hundred years ago.

The reference that I read indicated that there were two factors in the removal of the provision. First, as already mentioned were changes in the Papacy, and indeed the Catholic church’s position in society. Second, there was a recognition that there were others who would put themselves above Christ.


14 posted on 07/09/2008 7:41:21 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Please understand, I’m not trying to bait you with these comments, but to answer a question you asked about something that happened over a hundred years ago.

I realize this. And I wouldn't have even drudged up this month-old thread as a matter of opening wounds.

I just try to understand what the various Protestant positions are on theology, rather than just lumping everybody in the same boat (calling all of y'all a bunch of proddies...)

Face it, there is a huge difference in the theology between the High-Church Anglicans, the Lutherans, the Reformed, the Anabaptists, and the Campbellites. I don't claim to know it all...or even a lot of it...but it doesn't make me an effective debater if I respond to a Reformed person the same way I would to an Adventist.

First, as already mentioned were changes in the Papacy, and indeed the Catholic church’s position in society.

The funny thing about this is if you read a medieval document like Unam Sanctum, it refers to the papacy having a superior, but spiritual authority, vice a temporal authority. Thus, I would actually agree that the pope having a temporal state was a contradiction and, although it was not a good thing the way it worked out, the loss of the papal states was about the best thing that could happen. Allows the pope to concentrate on his real job and not the minor job of dealing with temporal issues.

Second, there was a recognition that there were others who would put themselves above Christ.

Nowadays, that's just about everybody. :-(

15 posted on 07/09/2008 7:53:38 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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