Still more .. ping!
I wonder if the Pope is, well, twisting arms . . .
Look forward to 6 paragraphs on social justice and 1 on the sactity of human life. The USCCB is composed of bishops who refuse to teach Church doctrine, refuse to speak out about abortion loving politicians, and fear that any statement they make will lower their collections. The Vatican, at least, is improving in its stand against evil. The USCCB is barely Catholic. Don’t look forward to the San Francisco shepard annoying his flock with too strong an anti-abortion statement. It will be bland and non-confrontational. If they had any nerve, Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy, Kerry, Moran, Kaine and the endless list of NARAL sponsored Catholics would not be welcome to communion.
This is turning into an interesting election cycle.
SF has already condemned the Church:
Resolution 168-08— San Francisco city and county board resolution that officially labeled the Catholic church’s moral teachings as “insulting to all San Franciscans,” “hateful,” “defamatory,” “insensitive” and “ignorant” —and was unanimously passed.
I say unleash the hounds.
If the RCC amounted to a hill of beans they would excommunicate her and every dim pol that stands for abortion. But they don’t and they won’t.
Like a slap on the wrist with a wet noodle. But it's better than nothing, I suppose.
These diocese have a link to the USCCB or other announcement regarding Pelosi’s heresy.
Springfield, IL ( with a link to 40 days for life)
That’s all so far, it’s time to go. =^..^=
This is better than nothing for Archbishop Niederauer of San Francisco.
Archbishop Niederauer of San Francisco would simply “nuance” through this embarassing episode then move on. Carry on folks, nothing to see here.
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And Pelosi has now escalated things. Her spokesman Brendan Daly (an Irish Catholic name if there ever was one) said:
The Speaker is the mother of five children and seven grandchildren and fully appreciates the sanctity of family. She was raised in a devout Catholic family who often disagreed with her pro-choice views.
After she was elected to Congress, and the choice issue became more public as she would have to vote on it, she studied the matter more closely. Her views on when life begins were informed by the views of Saint Augustine, who said: the law does not provide that the act [abortion] pertains to homicide, for there cannot yet be said to be a live soul in a body that lacks sensation (Saint Augustine, On Exodus 21.22)
While Catholic teaching is clear that life begins at conception, many Catholics do not ascribe to that view. The Speaker agrees with the Church that we should reduce the number of abortions. She believes that can be done by making family planning more available, as well as by increasing the number of comprehensive age-appropriate sex education and caring adoption programs.
The Speaker has a long, proud record of working with the Catholic Church on many issues, including alleviating poverty and promoting social justice and peace.
Now the bishops have a clear choice. She has thrown down the gauntlet. This is an arrogant, direct slap in their faces. If they do not move to discipline her, she wins.
I know they would like to finesse this by insisting that she should voluntarily abstain from Communion, I know that they fear a media backlash with them becoming the villains if her bishop were to excommunicate her. I understand all that.
But this is an act of deliberate escalation, a deliberate provocation, a bluffingly arrogant spitting in their faces because she is confident the media have her back on this.
If the bishops fold on this, if her bishops fails to hold her accountable, they have given away the store, squandered any hope of regaining any authority.
This is a krisis moment, a moment of decision not unlike the run-up to World War II when Hitler tested the resolve of the West and Chamberlain capitulated.
It did not eliminate the necessity of fighting a costly war, it only delayed that necessity and made the fight all the more bloody.
Until now, I cut the bishops some slack, hoping that the sharp scolding from Chaput, Egan,Wuerl etc. might be enough.
But now it seems like the ball is in Niederauers court. She has poke her thumb in his eye, calculatingly, arrogantly, banking on timid appeasement.
Sadly, I am not optimistic that Niederauer will rise to the challenge. Its a sad day, because the statements by Egan, Chaput et alii gave me some cause for hope.
Surprise me, Archbishop Niederauer, surprise me. We need to beg God for the grace, for once, of courage on the part of our bishops, particularly the archibishop of San Francisco.
Somethin's a-happenin' here folks. I'm convinced of it. This outburst of episcopal assertiveness which we've witnessed over the past several days has come completely out of the blue and is in such contrast to previous timidity and silence. This can only be due to Divine grace. Yes, I know some of you won't be satisfied until we have a public burning at the stake, but this is real progress.
Call me nuts but I believe that the Holy Spirit is at work here and I believe it is because we've flushed out the homosexuals from the seminaries and priesthood. Well maybe not totally but we've certainly flushed a large number as a result of the abuse scandals. I believe this cancer on the priesthood was a huge impediment to the dispensation of grace in the Catholic Church in this country and was the cause of so many of our problems. Be grateful.
I think we're now starting to see the fruits of that painful but so necessary house cleaning which has been taking place over the last several years and while I'm on a roll, let me also say that I believe the freeing up of the Tridentine Mass may also have contributed to what I can only call an "outpouring of grace" on our bishops.
Long may it continue.
They are now actually starting to resemble.....*gasp*.........shepherds!!
Seems like Catholic democrats have forgotten that the Catholic Church is anti-abortion.
This was the response.
“As there will be a new bishop in Wilmington as of Sept 8, I cannot answer your question.”
Looking forward to Sept. 8...