Posted on 10/06/2008 10:58:58 AM PDT by Zakeet
Wish I were the fly on the wall for that! LOL
. . .
Having Joseph Smith waiting at the gates of heaven to let us in or deny us access is against all teachings in the Bible. It is NOT Christian.
By denying this was taught are you also denying that previous prophets of the LDS church were NOT real prophets
++++++
I never said it is not taught. IT IS.
I said that this part is often used without the rest of the teachings. This makes it sound like something it isn't.
I have only been an ex-non-Mormon for 40 or so years.
I started out to prove this Church was wrong.
I had a closed mind, I did not need to study more, I “knew” the Church was wrong.
BUT
I found that with a little extra study, proving this Church wrong could not be done.
There are still some points the critics use that I have not found the answer to.
And if one of them turns out to prove my faith in Father's Church is wrong, I will admit it and change.
It just takes a little extra study to find out what the critics are leaving out, and how leaving it out changes what the real meaning is.
So, all I can say is to look deeper, past the easy answers, and see how Father's teachings come together as a hole.
Father loves all of us.
***I found that with a little extra study, proving this Church wrong could not be done.***
BWAAAHHHAAAA!
Three minutes of “study” will prove the Mormon church, and all of it’s little daughter churches, wrong.
I just HATE when that happens!!
I guess that ol'
is wrong; and your blessed Founder is right.
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My Beloved Son. Hear Him! 18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)and which I should join. 19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof. 20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, Never mind, all is wellI am well enough off. I then said to my mother, I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true. |
Reminds me of an old joke...
Late at night, a drunk was on his knees beneath a street-light, evidently looking for something.A passer-by, being a good Samaritan, offered to help. "What is it you have lost?" he asked.
"My watch," replied the drunk. "It fell off when I tripped over the pavement."
"About half a block up the street," replied the drunk.
The drunk said: "Because the light's a lot better here."
Answer the question F. If this is your response, then it is par for your course.
There are many who have investigated and do not agree with Fred's take on the subject.
I found that with a little extra study, proving this Church wrong could not be done.
There are still some points the critics use that I have not found the answer to. .
And if one of them turns out to prove my faith in Father's Church is wrong, I will admit it and change..
It just takes a little extra study to find out what the critics are leaving out, and how leaving it out changes what the real meaning is..
So, all I can say is to look deeper, past the easy answers, and see how Father's teachings come together as a hole. (Do you mean "whole"?)
Recently a group of bright, faithful young Latter-day Saints wrote down some of the most pressing questions on their minds. One sister asked, Why doesnt the Church defend itself more actively when accusations are made against it?
To her inquiry I would say that one of mortalitys great tests comes when our beliefs are questioned or criticized. In such moments, we may want to respond aggressivelyto put up our dukes. But these are important opportunities to step back, pray, and follow the Saviors example. Remember that Jesus Himself was despised and rejected by the world. And in Lehis dream, those coming to the Savior also endured mocking and pointing . . . fingers (1 Nephi 8:27). The world hath hated [my disciples], Jesus said, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world (John 17:14). But when we respond to our accusers as the Savior did, we not only become more Christlike, we invite others to feel His love and follow Him as well.
To respond in a Christlike way cannot be scripted or based on a formula. The Savior responded differently in every situation. When He was confronted by wicked King Herod, He remained silent. When He stood before Pilate, He bore a simple and powerful testimony of His divinity and purpose. Facing the moneychangers who were defiling the temple, He exercised His divine responsibility to preserve and protect that which was sacred. Lifted up upon a cross, He uttered the incomparable Christian response: Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do (Luke 23:34).
Some people mistakenly think responses such as silence, meekness, forgiveness, and bearing humble testimony are passive or weak. But, to love [our] enemies, bless them that curse [us], do good to them that hate [us], and pray for them which despitefully use [us], and persecute [us] (Matthew 5:44) takes faith, strength, and, most of all, Christian courage.
Mormons are free to conduct their religion in the U.S., but I hope they drop the "Christian" identifier. No one outside of their group is buyin' it.
Joe Smith wasn't a prophet and Mormons are not Christian. Just refer to basic Christian Doctrine if you don't believe me.
Other than that, all the Mormons I've met are very nice people.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.