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DO YOU HAVE A "SOUL"?
Ken Fortier Ministries ^ | Oct. 2008 | Ken Fortier

Posted on 10/18/2008 12:03:58 PM PDT by Truth Defender

A Preliminary Study on The Biblical Meaning of “Soul”. In the Old Testament the word for soul is “nephesh” and in the New the word is “psuche” — with both terms having the same meaning. “Whoever touches the dead body of anyone and fails to purify himself defiles the LORD's tabernacle. That person must be cut off from Israel” (Numbers 19:13). The bold words in the above verse is the Hebrew word “nephesh”, commonly translated as “soul” in numerous places in the OT Scriptures. Is it valid to question WHY the translators didn’t use the word “soul” in these two places in this verse? We judge that it is very valid to ask that question, for that is the only way we can find out the WHY. We will address that in this article as a part of our study.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: biblicalsoul; immortalsoul
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Ken Fortier has entitled this as A Preliminary Study on The Biblical Meaning of “Soul”. Many people will right off the bat consider this heretical because it goes against Traditionalist teachings of almost all churches in Christendom. However, as Ken says: "As we get further along in this study, you will find that you are forced to choose between what the Scriptures have to say and what traditional orthodoxy in Christianity has to say. I am not afraid, even at this point, to say that the majority of orthodox (so called) Christianity is dead wrong in teaching any 'immortal soul' theory as dogma to be believed; and before we finish this article, you may also find yourself saying the same thing."
1 posted on 10/18/2008 12:03:58 PM PDT by Truth Defender
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To: Truth Defender; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

Man is a creature composed of body and soul, and made to the image and likeness of God.

Poor Ken has too much time on his hands.


2 posted on 10/18/2008 12:08:52 PM PDT by narses (http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
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To: narses

Yes, but Michelle Obama has told me it has a hole in it.


3 posted on 10/18/2008 12:09:27 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Truth Defender
You don't have a Soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -- C.S. Lewis
4 posted on 10/18/2008 12:12:31 PM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: narses
Man is a creature composed of body and soul, and made to the image and likeness of God.

Poor Ken has too much time on his hands.

You haven't read it yet to be able to say anything intelligent.

5 posted on 10/18/2008 12:14:03 PM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: Truth Defender
"DO YOU HAVE A "SOUL"?"
Yes.
But I'm not a commie moonbat DUmmie atheist, a congress-critter who sold theirs to the Devil, or Obama the Antichrist.
6 posted on 10/18/2008 12:14:21 PM PDT by Condor51 (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is the body count!)
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To: Truth Defender
the majority of orthodox (so called) Christianity is dead wrong in teaching any 'immortal soul' theory

Fortunately, that question isn't on the final exam.

7 posted on 10/18/2008 12:14:39 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Petronski
You don't have a Soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -- C.S. Lewis

Excellent! I would tend to agree with that from Lewis.

8 posted on 10/18/2008 12:16:16 PM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: Petronski

More multiple choice theology with a liberal answer key that says all the answers are correct if you believe them to be.


9 posted on 10/18/2008 12:17:20 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: Larry Lucido
"...the majority of orthodox (so called) Christianity is dead wrong in teaching any 'immortal soul' theory..."

Fortunately, that question isn't on the final exam.

I didn't know that was a question.

10 posted on 10/18/2008 12:18:43 PM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: Truth Defender

“Do you have soul?”

Some, but I prefer country/western.


11 posted on 10/18/2008 12:30:11 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (No! YOU'RE the reason G-d made Oklahoma.)
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To: Truth Defender

All dogs go to heaven:

http://www.break.com/pictures/church-marquee-fight570759.html


12 posted on 10/18/2008 12:32:43 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Truth Defender

LOL, actually I did read it. A pedantic and poorly constructed, heretical argument to ignore the Truth. Sorry, no sale.


13 posted on 10/18/2008 12:36:14 PM PDT by narses (http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
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To: bigbob

One of my greatest wishes when I die is to see my dog. She died in 2005 and I miss her so much.


14 posted on 10/18/2008 12:39:25 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: Petronski

>You don’t have a Soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. — C.S. Lewis

I like that quote, and agree with it. Besides that, if there was no ‘immortal soul’, as it were, what then did Paul mean when he talked about seeing Him [Jesus] being like Him it the Resurrection?

Also, given the above, why is it that some people believe that resurrected beings are ‘ghost-like’ when Jesus plainly says to Thomas “Stick your hands in my holes” (hands and side) as well as ate with the disciples? A spirit/ghost cannot do those things, indicating that the resurrection is indeed physical as well.

Therefore, I believe that the soul and the body will both be resurrected. Whether or not the soul is ‘immortal’ is immaterial at this point because in order to resurrect people long-dead He would have to [re-]create bodies for them; and how hard would it be for God to [re-]create a soul if it had ‘died’? If it hadn’t, then how hard would it be for God to give this soul a new body?

In all, a moot point in the face of an All-powerful God.


15 posted on 10/18/2008 12:42:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: narses

A believer in the Lord Jesus Christ is tricodimus. We have a soul, body and spirit. We worship God in spirit and truth.


16 posted on 10/18/2008 1:19:31 PM PDT by Millie
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To: Truth Defender
In so far as I had time to read the article I'd agree that Fortier’s correct on the Biblical teaching on what it says about the “soul”. Even God speaks of “my soul” at Isa. 42:1.

Does it matter? Yes, if we believe Jesus’ words at John 4:24 about worshiping God “in truth”.

17 posted on 10/18/2008 1:21:24 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: narses
LOL, actually I did read it. A pedantic and poorly constructed, heretical argument to ignore the Truth. Sorry, no sale.

Sorry, it's not for sale :-)
Just what did you disagree with? Specifically?

18 posted on 10/18/2008 1:24:53 PM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: Millie
A believer in the Lord Jesus Christ is tricodimus. We have a soul, body and spirit.

Please read the whole thesis he present...then say that. We worship God in spirit and truth.

Amen! That is the truth - if it's done.

19 posted on 10/18/2008 1:28:55 PM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: Truth Defender

LOL, sorry rather than try and dissect the turgid and false teachings of the odd views you posted, I will simply suggest that you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. This is the Truth I believe and always will.


20 posted on 10/18/2008 1:29:42 PM PDT by narses (http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
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